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bufo - n/a
24-Jan-07, 12:45 PM
Me and my team decited to make what noone has done it before... so here it is...



http://www.bufocraft.net/yellow_bufo_hovercraft/bufo_j.JPG



Organic designed hovercraft named BUFO...



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Right now we are placing first engines on first hovercrafts that were produced in last months...



It is 2 person high performanc hovercraft based on contruction of F25 racer, with plenum chamber upgrades (it is unsinkable)

mick - n/a
24-Jan-07, 05:41 PM
Wow, Hats off to you guys , something diferant, how cool are they, will you be producing them comercialy?



Again well done they look great.

Horus - n/a
24-Jan-07, 06:28 PM
WELLDONE !



They are the finest hovercraft I have seen and really put to shame other commercially available hovercraft, I am just about to start building mine and can see I am going to have to buy pigments for colour.





Many thanks for the ideas,

bufo - n/a
24-Jan-07, 07:26 PM
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Wow, Hats off to you guys , something diferant, how cool are they, will you be producing them comercialy?
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We are able to produce them, but we will probably not do that... we make them only for our needs - renting bussines, and hovercraft shows,...



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They are the finest hovercraft I have seen and really put to shame other commercially available hovercraft
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Wait to see the performance... I need about 20 days to finish the first one...

On this foto you can see how shiny it is... like a mirror... but is not even polished yet... it is just taken out of mould...

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I am going to have to buy pigments for colour
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BUFO is not painted as it looks on foto... but all painting is done in the mould... so it is all the same shiny material... see how we make BUFO at http://www.bufocraft.net/hovercraft%20construction.htm (www.bufocraft.net/hovercraft%20construction.htm)

Happy Snapper - n/a
25-Jan-07, 08:18 AM
Cool.....



I love tree frogs

I would love to see one of those racing.



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Nick Long - n/a
25-Jan-07, 09:40 AM
Hi Guys,



That looks really cool, and well thought out construction too. Tell us more about yourselves, please.



Where in Slovenia are you? I was there just before Christmas.



Nick

tonybroad - n/a
25-Jan-07, 09:56 AM
Superb - i'd love to see a gang of juniors racing those



great website as well, especially the hovercraft in the snow



Tony

hovercad - n/a
25-Jan-07, 03:03 PM
They look great.

Nice looking craft suspect kids will be visiting the site to learn more.

One problem i did see was the picture on the about BUFO page.

Didnt bother me but it may offend some people when little jonny asks whats the frog on mummy.





Craig

bufo - n/a
25-Jan-07, 03:23 PM
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I would love to see one of those racing.
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We already have a craft for racing... but we do not have the sponsor yet...

Here is the link... http://www.mad-hovercraft.si/BUFO_racing_team_hovercraft_mad (www.mad-hovercraft.si/BUFO_racing_team_hovercraft_mad-bufo_hovercraft.htm) -bufo_hovercraft.htm

If we do not find the sponsor, we will have to buy engine by our selfs...

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Tell us more about yourselves, please.



Where in Slovenia are you? I was there just before Christmas.
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Than you know slovenia is very very small and nice country... http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_razz.gif we are near capital - Ljubljana...



And about us...

one of us is master of arts... http://www.mad-hovercraft.si/arts_craft_team_hovercraft_mad- (www.mad-hovercraft.si/arts_craft_team_hovercraft_mad-bufo_hovercraft.htm) bufo_hovercraft.htm, crazy arist like all artist...

another one is long bow manufacturer http://www.mad-hovercraft.si/archery_team_hovercraft_mad-buf (www.mad-hovercraft.si/archery_team_hovercraft_mad-bufo_hovercraft.htm) o_hovercraft.htm

, he makes probably best long bows on the world, but does not know how to sell them http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_smile.gif

another one is boat designer and manufacturer, here is the link http://www.obsession-marine.com (www.obsession-marine.com), he is crazy about power boating, and has his own model of power boat,

another one is composite expert (we do not have him on web)

and there is me... hovercraft manufacturer and enthusiast...



We all have in comoun that we work with a hart and only things we love to work... and we are all a bit crazy http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_smile.gif, and money is not on first place... probalbly because we are all the time broke... all of us http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_confused.gif



Combining our skills... BUFO is the result of our work and our idea...



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great website as well, especially the hovercraft in the snow
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You mean this one http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_smile.gifhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIcML3lsCtg (www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIcML3lsCtg) , that was my experience and my friend behind me broke his finger in accident

Nick Long - n/a
25-Jan-07, 05:07 PM
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Tell us more about yourselves, please.



Where in Slovenia are you? I was there just before Christmas.


Than you know slovenia is very very small and nice country... http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_razz.gif we are near capital - Ljubljana...


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Yes, beautiful place. I was working in Graz last year; if I had known I would have come to see your craft. When we went to Slovenia it was a bit further east - in the Kozjanski regijski park. I think we caused a little suspicion by crossing the border from Croatia on a tiny road instead of the motorway.



Nick

tonybroad - n/a
26-Jan-07, 08:27 AM
no it wasn't that video clip it was the other snow one (although that one is spectacular) - and yes you need to fit kill switches



Tony

bufo - n/a
26-Jan-07, 09:29 AM
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- and yes you need to fit kill switches
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They are fitted...



http://www.mad-hovercraft.si/logatec2005/hovercraft_logatec.jpg



But sometimes we do not use them... specialy if we drink too much http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Superwedge - n/a
26-Jan-07, 11:57 PM
Nice looking crafts But at the price they would want to be...



I could buy 3 Rotax powered Turbo Hovers for the price of one Bufo http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_eek.gif I realise the beutiful artwork would take some time but its no Piccaso! http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_biggrin.gif

Don83000 - n/a
27-Jan-07, 02:17 AM
http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_eek.gif At a minimum of 30,000 a piece I doubt they will have problems keeping up with production I do agree a very fun looking craft and looks a good finish and with the interest I wonder just how long it will be before a UK copy comes on the market

lol http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_rolleyes.gif

bufo - n/a
27-Jan-07, 06:02 AM
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I could buy 3 Rotax powered Turbo Hovers for the price of one Bufo I realise the beutiful artwork would take some time but its no Piccaso!
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Theoreticly yes... you can buy 3 turbo hovercrafts... or one BUFO... it all depends on how much mney you have... if money is not a question, decission is BUFO http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_smile.gif and some people have realy lot of money, and price is not always the most important term of decision - buy or not to buy...

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At a minimum of 30,000 a piece I doubt they will have problems keeping up with production I do agree a very fun looking craft and looks a good finish and with the interest I wonder just how long it will be before a UK copy comes on the market "Flying Frog" maybe lol
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You just add the reason why price is high... poeple that will buy bufo will buy it for the reason of having bufo, if bufo would be cheap, it would affordable and some people would have interest in buying it just for the reason of copiing it... I know for one guys that buy english hovercraft - i Thinkg eagle from KM just for the reason of copiing it... now there are already 2 or 3 copies of that hovercraft in Austria and is used for some car shows... They wanted to buy from me MAD - I did not want to sell them (I know such a creaps imidietly), and now they contacting me for bufo... - not for sale for such bottom of society...



Besides our main aim is to rent a bufo and have shows with it in our country, not a production... but if someone realy wants it... we can make it with no problem, 50 or more per year, but that as I said that is not the aim.



Complete project and modelating process took 2500 working hours of work (3 people were working 3 - 4 monthes more than 12 hours a day), and we did not work so hard to sell now bufo for price of other commercial hovercrafts. we rather not to sell than sell for low price.





If you guys are interested, I can present the complete project and proces of modelation in picture on this forum, I have all stapes of work creating BUFO model, mould and product on fotos...



All secret of product like BUFO is about hard work...

Horus - n/a
29-Jan-07, 04:54 PM
You really get what you pay for.



Im sure all the other manufactuers will be worried as their craft are now looking very dated and plain, and anyone currently hiring out knows it is only a matter of time before they will need to upgrade their hovercraft.



You have very high principles stick with them the only bad comments you will receive is from jealous competitors.



I would love to see a full build guide for how you made them, not to copy and resell, just to use as a guide for my racing craft.



Im sure a lot of other members would benefit aswell.

kach22i - n/a
30-Jan-07, 04:12 PM
Cool, but "organic" means something different over here.



Reminds me of this:

http://www.neoterichovercraft.com/news/news/news001.htm

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Neoteric........dragon shaped hovercraft for Disney World's Epcot Center
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Russ Pullen - n/a
30-Jan-07, 04:14 PM
Oh Dear - Frogs are my girlfriends favourite animal. Gues sthats why she's with me.



In any case, she wants one! http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_biggrin.gif

bufo - n/a
30-Jan-07, 05:42 PM
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dragon shaped hovercraft for Disney World's Epcot Center
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Where is possible to see the image or video clip...?

kach22i - n/a
30-Jan-07, 06:02 PM
I looked for 15 minutes, could not find it.



From what I remember it was kind of "tacked-on", not as nice as your frog.



They did another one which was not a dragon also for Disney, they would chase each other around for some kind of show on the artificial lake.

kach22i - n/a
31-Jan-07, 01:23 PM
UPDATE: I found the pictures this morning..........by accident.



http://photos.neoterichovercraft.com/display/photo.php?img_i (photos.neoterichovercraft.com/display/photo.php?img_id=2167&gallery=history&section=history) d=2167&gallery=history&section=history

http://photos.neoterichovercraft.com/photos/history/history/photo31.jpg



http://photos.neoterichovercraft.com/photos/history/history/photo32.jpg



http://photos.neoterichovercraft.com/photos/history/history/photo35.jpg



http://photos.neoterichovercraft.com/photos/history/history/photo40.jpg



You will have to contact Chris Fitzgerald of Neoteric directly for more information.



http://www.neoterichovercraft.com/ (www.neoterichovercraft.com/)



History page:

http://www.neoterichovercraft.com/about_neoteric/company_his (http://www.neoterichovercraft.com/about_neoteric/company_history.htm) tory.htm

bufo - n/a
1-Feb-07, 06:13 PM
That is very old hovercraft and also ''dragon'' is only attachment to hovercraft... it is totaly different thing as BUFO, but interesting anyway...



If me and my team would get such an order for hovercrafts, I am sure we would make much better job.



Here is the foto of BULL DOG Hovercraft we were about to make for one company that produces engergie drinks simular to RED BULL...



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You can see the company logo on tin of energie drink... and compare it to head attached on model of MAD hovercraft (the legs and other dog stuff is missing, because we did not start with modelation) Finial product would be made in one part and as shiny as mirror...



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Order was not confirmed, so we created BUFO hovercraft... now BUFO is our logo http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_smile.gif

kach22i - n/a
1-Feb-07, 07:35 PM
That is very old hovercraft and also ''dragon'' is only attachment to hovercraft... it is totaly different thing as BUFO, but interesting anyway...If me and my team would get such an order for hovercrafts, I am sure we would make much better job.



Order was not confirmed, so we created BUFO hovercraft... now BUFO is our logo http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_smile.gif




Which order was not confirmed, the frog or the bulldog?



I don't think the frog is better than the dragon, just two different craft for different times. The dragon is much more elaborate than the frog (see duct), just different not better.



I like many of the early hovercraft which tried to look like spaceships or automobiles, they are just "fun" looking.

bufo - n/a
1-Feb-07, 08:04 PM
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Which order was not confirmed, the frog or the bulldog?
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Order for bulldog, because price seemed to high for the company... and we offered the price equal than average comercial hovercraft http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_smile.gif, but people in our country still do not know what hovercraft is, so it seemed very expencive to them, than we dicede to make a BUFO for us... you see that BUFO is done already... http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_smile.gif



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I don't think the frog is better than the dragon, just two different craft for different times. The dragon is much more elaborate than the frog (see duct), just different not better.
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You understand me wrong...



If you get order for 15 hovercrafts as written on article... job should be done better and more professional as just putting some cheap masks on existing hovercraft...

kach22i - n/a
2-Feb-07, 12:02 PM
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If you get order for 15 hovercrafts as written on article... job should be done better and more professional as just putting some cheap masks on existing hovercraft...


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You are not going to make a lot of new friends/clients saying things like that.



I see much more work done in the dragon's lift/thrust area than on yours. This is far from "tack-on" based on what I know the Neoteric of the era looked like. My earlier comment before I found the old washed out photos on-line were from my fuzzy memory (happens with age) and do not represent my current views.



I think your frog craft is fun and cute looking, the bulldog not as much.



Liking one craft over the other is a subjective matter and a personal expression. Looking at the different approaches and respecting the industrial design and re-engineering is a "given" to me, as I see no value in kicking dirt on the efforts of others, especially those which might precede my own by a good 20 to 50 years (depending on project).



PS: I corrected calling MAD hovercraft "Russian, to Slovens from Slvenia in the HCA forum - sorry about that.

bufo - n/a
2-Feb-07, 01:33 PM
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I see much more work done in the dragon's lift/thrust area than on yours.
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I will present the complete work on this forum, so you will see the complete proces... and than you will know what I was talking about before... I do not kick the dirt on others work, I was only a bit critical, because there is big difference in - masking or designing something for purpuse... and conecting that to old article from the link... and to 15 ordered hovercrafts and payed - manufacturer should think about designing new model of hvoercraft and not masking the old ones... I am sure product would be much better.



Compareing to BUFO - BUFO is designed and not masked hovercraft



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I think your frog craft is fun and cute looking, the bulldog not as much.
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Bulldog would be crazy (when the body would be designed), but we put only the head that was made for some other stuff on the craft, just to get the impression...



Thanks for the corection http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_wink.gif

ps. yes we were drunk like hell, but not from vodka, but from shnops and beer, that we call submarine - you put small glas of shonps to sink in big glas of bear and drink it on one breath http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_smile.gif, and I forgot to use killer swithc, so shit happend after the crash. Anywhay I can claim now, we test safety of our hovercrafts on our bare skin http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_razz.gif

charfont - n/a
2-Feb-07, 03:07 PM
"we test safety of our hovercrafts on our bare skin"

i'm lost in translation here http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_eek.gif. nothing but admiration for the frogs and orignality excellent. http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_thumbsup.gif http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_idea.gif

bufo - n/a
4-Feb-07, 11:27 AM
From Russ

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Goos to see that you'res sponsored by BEER - "Helping people everywhere come up with crazy ideas for 100 years...."
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They drink bear also in Egipt... why do you think they made pyramides http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_rolleyes.gif ... and that makes beer older than 2000 years

bufo - n/a
28-Feb-07, 02:28 PM
Finaly the job is done... first BUFO is ready to go for a test ride tomorow (if wether will be ok)



http://www.bufocraft.net/hovercraft%20bufo.gif



Here are images...

http://www.bufocraft.net/hovercraft_picture_gallerie_1/index (www.bufocraft.net/hovercraft_picture_gallerie_1/index.html) .html

bufo - n/a
3-Mar-07, 02:45 PM
After first BUFO is done, we finaly managed to calculate the prices, and YES, they are final...



So here is my anwser to...



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Superwedge



Nice looking crafts But at the price they would want to be...

I could buy 3 Rotax powered Turbo Hovers for the price of one Bufo I realise the beutiful artwork would take some time but its no Piccaso!
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Piccaso arts worth nothing when he was alive, http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_rolleyes.gif



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At a minimum of 30,000 a piece I doubt they will have problems keeping up with production I do agree a very fun looking craft and looks a good finish and with the interest I wonder just how long it will be before a UK copy comes on the market

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We do not worry... we already are step ahead with next product (it is secreet for now)



Price for BUFO starts from 16.540 EUR up, specification of hovercraft you find here... http://www.bufocraft.net/hovercraft_price.htm



I have seen other commercial hovercrafts and I know how do they look and how are they made, and comparing them to BUFO, ... http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_rolleyes.gif



Awaiting comments about price

andycollins - n/a
4-Mar-07, 08:20 PM
Hi Folks,



This started of as a posting of the delevopment of a new craft and a general question/answer session, which is fine.



It's starting to turn into an advert and as you know, we don't allow that here. So let's end this one here guys.







Thanks.



Andy.

jon_curtis - n/a
5-Mar-07, 05:20 PM
starting!



think it always was an advert andy! http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_smile.gif

bufo - n/a
5-Mar-07, 06:01 PM
I asked admin of this forum first... if I can put web pages links... and I was alowed to do so... Admin correct?

http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_rolleyes.gif

bufo - n/a
10-Mar-07, 08:41 AM
Test ride was sucesfull...



http://www.bufocraft.net/hovercraft_picture_gallerie_2/bufo_hovercraft%20(19).JPG



Here is the link of Video taken yesterday...



http://www.mad-hovercraft.si/hovercraft_video_bufo/bufo_hove (www.mad-hovercraft.si/hovercraft_video_bufo/bufo_hovercraft_ride_1.wmv) rcraft_ride_1.wmv





If everything goes by plan we will join the EHF racing events in season 2008 with BUFO hovercraft and our team. Looking forward...

bufo - n/a
19-Mar-07, 07:31 PM
Last weekend we went on second ride with BUFO...



http://www.bufocraft.net/hovercraft_picture_gallerie_3/bufo%20hovercraft%20(6).JPG



Here is picture gallerie...

http://www.bufocraft.net/hovercraft_picture_gallerie_3/bufo% (www.bufocraft.net/hovercraft_picture_gallerie_3/bufo%20hovercraft.html) 20hovercraft.html



On Sunday we (our hovercraft club)have small meeting with hovercrafts with Italian hovercrafters. Meeting will be in Slovenia, if someone have time, feel welcome to come.



Right now is snowing here, and I belive snow will hold on till sunday... Terrain will be just great I asume...



Here is gallerie from last year http://www.mad-hovercraft.si/meeting/

http://www.mad-hovercraft.si/klub/lorenzo_pontelli.avi - Pontelli after drinking Slovenian Schnops http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_biggrin.gif , later he crashed his hovercraft http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_smile.gif

And here is meeting from Italy - Pordenone http://www.mad-hovercraft.si/klub/italia/

Keith Oakley - n/a
20-Mar-07, 08:28 AM
Have you any information on the Slovakia EHF Race meeting in June? There's a number of UK folk who'd like to come but need to know more before booking flights/ferries etc. I know Slovakia isn't Slovenia but they both start with Slov... and you're a bit nearer than we are!

bufo - n/a
21-Mar-07, 05:12 PM
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Have you any information on the Slovakia EHF Race meeting in June? There's a number of UK folk who'd like to come but need to know more before booking flights/ferries etc. I know Slovakia isn't Slovenia but they both start with Slov... and you're a bit nearer than we are!
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Slovenia starts with sLOVEnia http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_cool.gif



And affcourse with BEER http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_biggrin.gif

index.php?t=getfile&id=623&private=0



And in last time we are working on hovercraft popularity here...



Our club wants to orginize race events, because we have a lot of nice places to drive hovercrafts... and we think we also have excelent craft...



We do not have contact with Slovak people, but woul be greatfull if you sent me contact info at hovercraft.slo&#64;email.si if you get some... Future will brig meetings...



Here is gallerie from today ride, movie will be ready soon...

http://www.bufocraft.net/hovercraft_picture_gallerie_4/index (http://www.bufocraft.net/hovercraft_picture_gallerie_4/index_hovercraft.html) _hovercraft.html



ps

Bufo construction topic will continue as soon as I manage to edit more fotos

jon_curtis - n/a
21-Mar-07, 05:39 PM
this guy dont stop!



nice craft, but does anyone else think the name is a bit stupid?

team black - n/a
21-Mar-07, 05:43 PM
does anyone else think the name is a bit stupid?




Not those of us that know the latin for "toad"

Don83000 - n/a
21-Mar-07, 06:17 PM
Hi Folks,



This started of as a posting of the delevopment of a new craft and a general question/answer session, which is fine.



It's starting to turn into an advert and as you know, we don't allow that here. So let's end this one here guys.







Thanks.



Andy.






Seems like one word from Andy and they just carry on regardless maybe all the suppliers should get refunds for their advertising pages and put bigger adverts on here for free http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_lol.gif

hovmart - n/a
21-Mar-07, 06:41 PM
Looks like a 1970s craft built for kids by guys who brink lots of Beer to me, nothing wrong with that but not state of the art, good luck

jon_curtis - n/a
21-Mar-07, 09:41 PM
that would be bufonis http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_smile.gif

bufo - n/a
21-Mar-07, 09:57 PM
Here is video...



http://www.mad-hovercraft.si/hovercraft_video_bufo/bufo_hove (www.mad-hovercraft.si/hovercraft_video_bufo/bufo_hovercraft_up_down_we_go.wmv) rcraft_up_down_we_go.wmv

bufo - n/a
28-Mar-07, 12:01 PM
This weekend Renato Presotto, Italian hovercraft formula 2 racer was testing BUFO hovercraft...

index.php?t=getfile&id=624&private=0



Complete picture gallerie is on link http://www.bufocraft.net/hovercraft_picture_gallerie_5/inex (http://www.bufocraft.net/hovercraft_picture_gallerie_5/inex.html). html

Sean Atterbury - n/a
29-Mar-07, 07:34 AM
Many frogs in the world are poisonous.



I feel that this frog is getting infected and will become poison soon.



Are there other forums that are feeling the bite?



Its a very nice craft and we all want one, but. I feel this Thread is a bit long and the pics a bit too big, I have wireless and it takes long to load, just think how the poor bugg (sorry webby) guys who have dial up have to wait.



Maybe just put the link in and they can go see the pic on your site. Again this forum is not here for advertising. It would seem that you know plenty about the sport and have no need for advise on glassing or anything to do with construction.



Maybe you can help some of us who know little about the construction and have home builds.



Just my 10 cents, take and use or lose it, what ever... http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_smile.gif

jon_curtis - n/a
29-Mar-07, 04:33 PM
i agree atters, this guy is really starting to do my head in! he dont bloody stop with plugging his craft!



i do disagree with the everone wants one comment tho! i certainly dont!



the only thing on these craft that is even remotely clever is the paint job, and i suspect the technique they use is nothing new!



think its about time we stop having bufo, postings on this forum, he has his own website, the guys look like a load of prats to be honest, he is not helping the hovercraft club, and not helping with information and advice to others!

its still appears to be an advert, for a craft that would best fit in bolted to a merry go round!

bufo - n/a
29-Mar-07, 04:48 PM
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he is not helping the hovercraft club, and not helping with information and advice to others!
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Take it easy dangerman http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_wink.gif... In topic http://hovercraft.org.uk/FUDforum2/index.php?t=msg&th=90 (http://hovercraft.org.uk/FUDforum2/index.php?t=msg&th=901&start=0&S=039947784a13ada2bb12ff14733eead0) 1&start=0&S=039947784a13ada2bb12ff14733eead0 I am posting the cosntruction steps if you have not noticed...



Problem is only I have lot of work and too many photos of construction process to edit for the topic, I hope I manage soon to post another interesting gallerie of modelating the craft from begining...



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How come all other boat, and hovercraft producers use only one or maximum 2 different gelcoats on one product ? You can belive me it is not so simple as it looks... http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_smile.gif

team black - n/a
30-Mar-07, 07:40 AM
Here's my situation as moderator:



I am not prepard to accept advertising and this board, other than on the classifieds section. there are, however a number of interesting technical aspects to the Bufo craft. I am now only going to accept further posts on this thread that reflect the technical side of the construction, or responses to questions.



Them's the rules



Ewan

Sean Atterbury - n/a
30-Mar-07, 07:42 AM
OK Lets give you the benefit of the doubt. Answer me this and anyone please Jump in and help out.



Questions:



How far must my fan be from the splitter plate?, Mine is too far I feal.



What do you have to drain the craft if it gets water in?



What do you use to help with floatation and when in the construction do you fit it?



How do you attach skid plates and what are they made of, plus what size is a good size?



How do I get the foam to be realy smooth when building a duct?



What is the best way to hold the Deck and the Hull together?



Is the deck and the hull connected in some way where the seat is or is it loose?



My craft turns better one way than the other, but the rudders are centred, Y is this?



Right. http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_rolleyes.gif

bufo - n/a
30-Mar-07, 08:38 AM
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How far must my fan be from the splitter plate?, Mine is too far I feal.
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As close as possible, my impeller runs 2-3mm from splitter...

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???

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What do you use to help with floatation and when in the construction do you fit it?
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This picture might help you... http://www.mad-hovercraft.si/mad/hovercraft%20pictures/plenu (http://www.mad-hovercraft.si/mad/hovercraft%20pictures/plenum.JPG) m.JPG

You can use polystiren, but be carefull, bucause poliester melts it... The best is to used 2 component closed cell polywretane, but is more heavy as polystirene...

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How do you attach skid plates and what are they made of, plus what size is a good size?
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On my hovercraft I do not have skids... Bottom of my hovercraft is dubble sandwiched http://www.mad-hovercraft.si/mad/hovercraft%20pictures/plwoo (http://www.mad-hovercraft.si/mad/hovercraft%20pictures/plwoodbottom.JPG) dbottom.JPG



Fibreglass

1cm airex

Fibreglass

0,6 mm waterproof plywood

Fibreglas



It becomes very strong, because of combination of 3 different materials... and when plywood is damaged (it holds 3 years with no problem) you cut it away, and put on another new...

It so strong it is almoast imposible to brake and damage the hovercraft hull...

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I already written that in toppic http://hovercraft.org.uk/FUDforum2/index.php?t=msg&th=90 (http://hovercraft.org.uk/FUDforum2/index.php?t=msg&th=901&start=0&S=d0753fd5f1b925861ee6d396338689ed) 1&start=0&S=d0753fd5f1b925861ee6d396338689ed



It is complete work presented of how to make good loking duct...



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If you mean duct and hull... I recomand you rubber holders.



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??

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That is quite normal, but must not be to big difference... Y? Because impeller is push of air to splitter is not straight, but circular...

bufo - n/a
13-Aug-07, 05:52 PM
mud'n roll... how about that http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_rolleyes.gif video at

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98PqvUuzUIA (www.youtube.com/watch?v=98PqvUuzUIA)

Horus - n/a
19-Aug-07, 06:25 PM
Good to see you are still using the forums BUFO,



I thought you would of given up considering all the negative responses you received, Which suprises me considering you have done more to help than all the other members here.



I think its a case of jealousy in most cases.



I havent got much further with my craft and will have to wait till winter to start building, My diving business is taking up all my time, which isnt how its supposed to work !



Richard.

bufo - n/a
20-Aug-07, 09:08 AM
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Good to see you are still using the forums BUFO,

I thought you would of given up considering all the negative responses you received, Which suprises me considering you have done more to help than all the other members here.

I think its a case of jealousy in most cases.

I havent got much further with my craft and will have to wait till winter to start building, My diving business is taking up all my time, which isnt how its supposed to work !

Richard.
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I never give up...

Our team has lot of work with opening official hovercraft club of Slovenia...

We are building official home page at link http://www.hovercraft-club.si (www.hovercraft-club.si)

Also we are preparing one MAD hovercraft for the race, class rotax (engine ROtax 503, belt transmission, very light hovercraft)

So I hope we meet some of your people soon at the race around EU.



I am proud to announce that yesterday, we were on hovercraft meeting of Hovercraft team from North Italy, where we acchived with our BUFO hovercraft fastest time in competition of 6 other same class hovercrafts in 3 laps timing.

Considering BUFO setup was not adjusted for the race, but for recreational ride, result is just fantastic.

Pictures and video is under construction.

bufo - n/a
21-Aug-07, 12:25 PM
That's me http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_smile.gif



http://www.hovercraft-club.si/img/srecanja/2nd-hovercraft-meeting-Italia.jpg



Here is video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zi4ChFnZWH0 (www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zi4ChFnZWH0)

Video was taken by foto-cammera, and is not high qualite.



And picture Galerie: http://www.hovercraft-club.si/azzano-07 (www.hovercraft-club.si/azzano-07)

bufo - n/a
17-May-08, 07:11 PM
Manufacture of BUFO hovercraft for racing in Sweden WHC 2008 has just started...

http://www.bufocraft.net/airboat-construction/WHC_airboat_hovercraft_24.JPG

More pictures of 1 step of consturction - gelcoating colors and patterns at direct link....



http://www.bufocraft.net/airboat-construction/ (www.bufocraft.net/airboat-construction/)

Nauti Buoy - n/a
17-May-08, 09:22 PM
Manufacture of BUFO hovercraft for racing in Sweden WHC 2008 has just started...

http://www.bufocraft.net/airboat-construction/WHC_airboat_hovercraft_24.JPG

More pictures of 1 step of consturction - gelcoating colors and patterns at direct link....



http://www.bufocraft.net/airboat-construction/ (www.bufocraft.net/airboat-construction/)




Or to put it another way......



BTTT http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Jonathan - n/a
18-May-08, 03:28 AM
Hi guys,

To be honest I LIKE to see pictures of the BUFO craft, especially now they're operational.



Lets be Honest, they look fun, they're different, and could generate a lot of publicity for us all.





Oh..... and they like Beer!

bufo - n/a
18-May-08, 06:43 AM
the magic word... for the magic drink http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_smug.gif

kach22i - n/a
19-May-08, 02:51 PM
Bufo, are there any changes in this craft which makes it different than the other craft before it?



Looks like a good start. http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_smile.gif

bufo - n/a
19-May-08, 06:53 PM
Ofcourse there are changes...



First thing to notice is different color style...



We decide to use this color imitation

http://www.casarioblanco.com/poison-dart-frog.jpg



We also add some more pattern stripes in blue, dark blue and red combination of colors...

We changed the eyes color into dark blue and red with perls and some other effects...

Beside our frog will be more yelow (because color of sweden is yelow and swedish blue) with blue duct from inside...

+ some artist ideas...



But you never know what you have created, untill you take it out of mould and see it... Frog will be taken out of mould in about 10 days, than we will see what we created... http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_rolleyes.gif , today I just finished reinforcments.



So much about colors...



About laminating... Laminate will be much thinner as I usualy made for my crafts, and in sadwich combination where needed, offcourse laminate will be about 30 % weaker as ussualy to save some weight, but still strong enough for the rides. I will take fotos of reinforcments and make gallery in next days.



My grey BUFO weights about 145 KG complete (it is very strong and made to last), new one will be much lighter and is made only for the race in Sweden, offcourse lifetime of the craft will be shorter, but who cares, I can make new one anytime I want http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_cool.gif .



Grey BUFO I have has about 30 litter inox fuel tank, the craft for the race will have aluminum 15 litter fuel tank - here is another few kilos saved.



Small change will be in rudders - I will use about 7 cm longer aerodynamic rudders and only 2 horizontal (no vertical)



Engine fitting will be standard with reduction B.



I can only say it will be the lightest craft I ever made, and the first craft I made (I am making) for the real race... we will see http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_smile.gif , I look forward to our first WHC participation.

Jamie Lewendon - n/a
20-May-08, 11:47 AM
Small change will be in rudders - I will use about 7 cm longer aerodynamic rudders and only 2 horizontal (no vertical)






Won't that make turning a little tricky? http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_rolleyes.gif



Jamie

bufo - n/a
20-May-08, 01:00 PM
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Renato says larger rudders, we make them http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_smile.gif, me personaly prefer this system...

http://www.bufocraft.net/hovercraft_picture_gallerie_7/personal-hovercraft-9.JPG

2 horizontal + 1 vertical



But Renato says horizontal rudder is for chickens http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_rolleyes.gif , so he gets 2 verticals, but a bit longer, we will see how it will perform on the race http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_cool.gif

kach22i - n/a
20-May-08, 02:38 PM
When I added my fixed in place horizontal it greatly helped the ability to track a straight line. I was zig-zagging all over the place before that.

bufo - n/a
22-May-08, 08:55 PM
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I did not noticed any problem on my craft with zig-zagging without horizontal before... I use it for brake and in case of wind in the back on the water at higher speeds...



For those interested in BUFO WHC construction progress, I have updated gallery...



http://www.bufocraft.net/airboat-construction/WHC_airboat_hovercraft.JPG



New hovercraft pictures of constructing BUFO hovercraft for WHC added at link ''' http://www.bufocraft.net/airboat-construction/ (www.bufocraft.net/airboat-construction/)



I was working more than 12 hours a day every day for last 10 days, and today finaly installed last component - buoyancy canal (not in gallerie yet). Tomorw is a big day - we take the craft out of mould and see what we have created, and most important, - what is the weight... Probably no sleap tonight http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_confused.gif



How is the weather in england ? http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_cool.gif

http://www.bufocraft.net/airboat-construction/WHC_airboat_hovercraft_37.JPG

Keith Oakley - n/a
22-May-08, 09:32 PM
Don't forget you need to pre-register for the WHC in Sweden.

bufo - n/a
23-May-08, 09:07 PM
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It is done already http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_cool.gif , don't worry.



As I said today was the day...



We take the hovercraft out of mould. Complete hull weights 68 KG + I am still able to manufacture lighter for about 10 kg without loosing any strenght http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_smile.gif. And good news is hovercraft hull is still strong as a tank http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_cool.gif



Here is a picture

http://www.bufocraft.net/airboat-construction/WHC_airboat_hovercraft_78.JPG



Check also again updated gallery with 100 pictures of BUFO hovercraft construction of craft for the WHC race at link http://www.bufocraft.net/airboat-construction/ (www.bufocraft.net/airboat-construction/), wehre you can find all steps of BUFO construction proces.



Now the montage work folows.

bufo - n/a
30-Jul-08, 10:12 PM
And finaly... the test ride with new BUFO...



http://www.bufocraft.net/world_airboat_racing_2008/airboat-racing-16.JPG

Quite lot of hours spent on this project, money as well, lot of empty bottles of beer, but it was worth it!!!



Conditions of testing were impossible... just cut and very dry grass flow everywhere and it was a matter of seconds the fan guard was covered by 5 cm sheat of grass... so I was no able to test it maximum...



This Sunday we go to Italy to Barcis on small hover meeting with italians where we will test new BUFO on the lake. Loking forward to! http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_cool.gif



Picture gallery of 50 hovercraft pictures at link http://www.bufocraft.net/world_airboat_racing_2008 (www.bufocraft.net/world_airboat_racing_2008)

Jonathan - n/a
30-Jul-08, 10:37 PM
Here is a picture

http://www.bufocraft.net/airboat-construction/WHC_airboat_hovercraft_78.JPG






Well, I think you've got a chance for an unofficial

"Most unusual/Best looking craft"



I look forward to seeing you there!

bufo - n/a
31-Jul-08, 08:44 AM
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It is very big chance that all other pilots will see BUFO only from this angle during the race... http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_biggrin.gif

http://www.bufocraft.net/world_airboat_racing_2008/airboat-racing-45.JPG



I mean... Renato is a good pilot, hovercraft is light, strong and fast,... maybe something will go wrong with engine (engine is renovated, has new piston rings and renovated shaft), but you never know... there is always next time http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_cool.gif



Just uploadet the first video... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9iLBh346Iw (www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9iLBh346Iw)

Sandra Barlow - n/a
31-Jul-08, 08:59 AM
Bufo quote: [Renato is a good pilot, hovercraft is light, strong and fast,... ]



mmm lets hope there are no banks to go up - the last time Renato did a bank he flipped up, fell out and broke his collar bone http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_eek.gif not to mention the front off his hover http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_smile.gif



If its that light, the other drivers may only see it upside down....as they pass under it! http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_biggrin.gif



Good luck - the proof is in the pudding http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_biggrin.gif and we will all see for ourselves soon enough.

GavinParson - n/a
31-Jul-08, 09:37 AM
Team France didn't buy any then? http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_cool.gif

bufo - n/a
31-Jul-08, 03:29 PM
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Did I missed something? I was not in contact with team france yet...



I heard there is one french man, that is canditade for a champion F50...

Heard from Italians, that he has wider duct, about meter or more... and that he is quite fast... http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_rolleyes.gif



We have 900 mm duct only http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_redface.gif

GavinParson - n/a
31-Jul-08, 04:00 PM
http://froglegs.org/- French Cuisine- Irony http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_lol.gif

sixpackpert - n/a
31-Jul-08, 04:16 PM
Clearly not witnessed Steve Walsh's 503 craft then? Walks away with 503 in the UK and runs in about 3rd-4th in the Formula 2 races despite having about half the horsepower. T'is quick it is!

Keith Oakley - n/a
31-Jul-08, 04:55 PM
First step to success in an event is to register to take part. http://www.premedia.se/hover/wc2008/regcrafts.htm (www.premedia.se/hover/wc2008/regcrafts.htm) Look forward to seeing you in Sweden.

bufo - n/a
31-Jul-08, 07:36 PM
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I belive most of hovercraft are faster as BUFO, we go there to have fun and to get some cool pictures and video.

Please have in mind that BUFO is designed for recreational use, fishing, (longer stops on water), and for carriing 2 adult persons (it has bigger skirt air supply hole as racers so loses on thrust) so it can be used for rental bussines and tandem rides of people, it has excelent cushion so ride with 2 persons is just excelent etc...



Racing is the last thing we had in mind when we were modelating the craft, but on last meeting on Spring here in Slovenia, Renato Presotto came out with idea to go on WHC with BUFO (grey one),- he likes this frog from the day he tested it first time...

http://www.hovercraft-club.si/azzano-07/azzano-hovercraft-meeting-07%20(20).JPG

Grey one I have is prototype and I still test it in all impossible condtitions to get out the failiures and avoid them in future (so far so good). I decited to make him a new hovercraft - ofcourse the new BUFO craft is not best I can make, but good enough to crash it in worst case scenario, which can happen as The Dragon said... http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_rolleyes.gif

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I belive F50 class will be interesting this year http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_cool.gif no matter the results.

hover-cheese - n/a
31-Jul-08, 07:50 PM
Superb - i'd love to see a gang of juniors racing those






first volunteer http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_razz.gif

bufo - n/a
5-Aug-08, 12:13 AM
On sunday we were testing new hovercraft with Renato Presotto... in Lago del Barcis in Italy... very nice lake for hovering...



and... WATER SKIING WITH A HOVERCRAFT http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_cool.gif



Check video at .... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkt2jjMV97w (www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkt2jjMV97w)



New videos very soon http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_smile.gif



Hovercraft is on the way to Sweden...

Keith Oakley - n/a
5-Aug-08, 08:24 AM
Congratulations - it's been done many times before but I don't think its been done before with as little as 52bhp.

Sean Atterbury - n/a
5-Aug-08, 12:26 PM
http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_sad.gif I had that that idea first http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_sad.gif , BUT http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_biggrin.gif now I am glad it works, so guess what I will be trying in two weeks when we go for a planned getaway with the family?



If they can then my 503 can too. http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_surprised.gif



http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_rolleyes.gif wonder what I will say if it does'nt work http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_rolleyes.gif



http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_lol.gif http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_lol.gif http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_lol.gif http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_lol.gif it'll be fun to try though.

bufo - n/a
5-Aug-08, 12:40 PM
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mmm lets hope there are no banks to go up - the last time Renato did a bank he flipped up, fell out and broke his collar bone not to mention the front off his hover
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I am more and more affraid that you are a bit right... on sunday in Barcis, Renato did the first damage to BUFO, throttle was high, because we did not adjust carburatores yet, and renato jump out of the craft after stoping, live it runing and walk away to talk with his friends... Trhottle was quite high, so hovercraft went its way by it self and hit a tree...



So there is first small gelcoat crack in the front already... I hope this is last damage of this craft...



Anywhay, here is the new video of some more action...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7W9qAWiLMiA (www.youtube.com/watch?v=7W9qAWiLMiA)

Sandra Barlow - n/a
5-Aug-08, 01:23 PM
One of the most basic rules of hovercraft........fit a kill switch! http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_redface.gif



A silly mistake that could have hurt someone.

sixpackpert - n/a
5-Aug-08, 04:10 PM
on sunday in Barcis, Renato did the first damage to BUFO, throttle was high, because we did not adjust carburatores yet, and renato jump out of the craft after stoping, live it runing and walk away to talk with his friends... Trhottle was quite high, so hovercraft went its way by it self and hit a tree...








Why did you take it to a public place without setting up the carbs? Having it not idling low enough is a big hazard and will not give you full control. Why didn't he kill the engine before getting out if he knew the problem was there? I presume you have lanyard kill switches??



Thank god no-one got hurt and you only damaged the craft, come on guys get it sorted and get it safe! http://www.jonrb.com/emoticons/banghead.gif

bufo - n/a
5-Aug-08, 04:19 PM
http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_redface.gif



Just got the camera device, very light and portable for install it on the craft, and take video during the racing...



I will upload foto during the evenening... very nice toy...

Jonathan - n/a
5-Aug-08, 09:21 PM
One of the most basic rules of hovercraft........fit a kill switch! http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_redface.gif



A silly mistake that could have hurt someone.




Thats assuming Renato was wearing a lanyard to the kill switch!

Sandra Barlow - n/a
6-Aug-08, 09:42 AM
Clearly he wasn't, he's experienced enough to know better, I suspect that they didn't have one fitted. I think the excitement got the better of them and fortunately they didn't hurt anyone.

Bufo, please, please, please take the basic safety precautions, it is hard enough getting people to allow hovercraft to perform, it would be very sad if a silly basic mistake like this stops the sport.

Jonathan - n/a
6-Aug-08, 11:07 AM
Clearly he wasn't, he's experienced enough to know better, I suspect that they didn't have one fitted. I think the excitement got the better of them and fortunately they didn't hurt anyone.






Well to be honest excitement gets the better of us all sooner or later (Yes, I've been guilty of it as well, in that charge to make it to the grid...)

(I doubt even Heather can't count the times she's had to 'remind' drivers put their lanyards on!).



Remember we (in the HCGB) had to modify the rules so that Lanyards are tight enough to work because of drivers "hurling themselves" out of their craft only for their engines to continue running.. Have any of the European or the WORLDS rules been similarly amended?

sixpackpert - n/a
6-Aug-08, 11:22 AM
Well to be honest excitement gets the better of us all sooner or later (Yes, I've been guilty of it as well, in that charge to make it to the grid...)

(I doubt even Heather can't count the times she's had to 'remind' drivers put their lanyards on!).








Should be second nature, like putting on your seatbelt in your car.



We do not need to cause unnecessary accidents. This could have been another one, right next to a road FFS!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIcML3lsCtg



We're trying to push for responsible craft operation, things like this does not help. http://www.jonrb.com/emoticons/ranting.gif

jon_curtis - n/a
6-Aug-08, 05:32 PM
its not just fitting a lanyard, that craft continued to scream its t1ts off, so they obviously didnt then and still dont have throttle return on the list of MUST have saftey features!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7W9qAWiLMiA



in this clip, matey jumps out of the craft when it is still running/moving and almost falls into the fan when gaming about on water!



ok guys have your fun, but you seem to be boardering on the rididculas now!

We all make mistakes but why you feel the need to publish them, is beyond me.

sixpackpert - n/a
7-Aug-08, 07:17 AM
in this clip, matey jumps out of the craft when it is still running/moving and almost falls into the fan when gaming about on water!








Can't see any problem with that TBH, it's got a fan guard on it.



Throttle return is done by the springs in the carbs. If the throttle lever had got jammed open when the guy fell out (steering could have broken and locked the handle bars against the hull so opening the throttle up, throttle cable could have jumped out of the lever housing etc etc) then the craft would scream off at full chat. If he had a lanyard connected to him it would have stopped and the drama would have been over.

Sean Atterbury - n/a
7-Aug-08, 09:31 AM
Is true, the lanyard is vital and a must for all vehicles that have a rider on that is not secure, come to think of it I think bikes should have them too, I have seen many an accident where the biker falls off the bike and the bike still in gear keeps going to hit some unsuspecting bloke... Just the other day over here some people were playing with their jet ski and they fell off, all drowned, even at idle the jet ski got away from them, you just cant always swim that fast. The importance is such, NO LANYARD NO GO.

bufo - n/a
15-Aug-08, 07:06 AM
Just back from the holiday camping...



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Bufo, please, please, please take the basic safety precautions, it is hard enough getting people to allow hovercraft to perform, it would be very sad if a silly basic mistake like this stops the sport.
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If you go to Sweden, stop at BUFO and read the warnings that are facing the pilot face!

It is not my responsability if pilot is not using engine killing switch...



And about basic safety...

As much as I know only my hovercraft uses 4 mm funguard made of stainless steel...

Beside my fan guard is firstly dot weldned and secondly TIG weldened on each spot.

With other words... IMPOSIBLE TO BREAK IT in case of impeller blast.



You english people all use only 3 mm dot weldened fan guard...



I was using 3 mm before, and get impeller blade in my back witch flew through the fanguard like there was no fanguard there (that fanguard I bought from english manufacturer).



I am making my own fan guards now... strong ehough to stand the impeller blast and the only safe enough for use on a hovercraft, made of 4mm wire.



You talk so much about safety... so now I am asking you is 3 mm fan guard safe in case of impeller blast...



Anwser is NO. And mostly all of you use such an fanguards.



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Should be second nature, like putting on your seatbelt in your car.



We do not need to cause unnecessary accidents. This could have been another one, right next to a road FFS!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIcML3lsCtg



We're trying to push for responsible craft operation, things like this does not help.
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Again... mistake of the pilot not to using the kill switch.. in this case I was on the craft with my freind, and I already told the complete story... SHIT HAPPENS...



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I AGREE!!!

Sean Atterbury - n/a
15-Aug-08, 07:14 AM
DEAR BUFO



PLEASE START A NEW THREAD FOR YOUR NEXT POST, THIS THREAD HAS GOT TOO LONG.



THANKS

jon_curtis - n/a
15-Aug-08, 01:57 PM
i think you will find, they use 2.5mm x 2" square weld mesh for fan guards over hear! some are mig welded, some are tig welded! seen some very nice ones, spot welded (very strong).



as for your fan explosion, did the bit of blade actually go through the guard? or pop out of the periphery when the guard left is mounts due to the impact? from what your saying the guard totally failed? did it break away from the rim? if so your mounting it too hard! Craft over hear now have webbing straps which stop the guard coming far forward once the fan pops, and the rubber mounts break! this effective decelerates the force of impact, soaking up energy, which might very well be better than a very very solid (heavy) rigidly mounted guard. if the bit of blade is less than 2" in section it might go through the mesh anyhow?



I would estimate your fan might very well have been spinning too fast? was the tip speed less than 168ms?



for you to make statements that your guards are 'the only safe enough on a hovercraft' is quite frankly silly!



A gentalman over hear, has proven that decent polymer catch netting, could very well be better than solid steel guards, as for the very reasons i mention above, it absorbs the energy!



your guards might very well be twice the weight they need to be!you might not be as clever as you think you are http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_smile.gif

bufo - n/a
15-Aug-08, 02:11 PM
My fanguard has arround 4kg, what is not so scary heavy..., considering complete craft weights around 130 kg.



I did not save on weight on funguard and engine frame.



And I am not saying my fanguard is best, I just said I got blade in my back when I was using english standard type of fanguard.



Blade cut 4 wires like a knife hit the engine and than me.

I am saying just that 3 mm wire is not strong enough to stop the blade, and 4mm can stand the impact with no problems.



Ofcourse if that 2 kg of weight difference is not more important to you...

Sandra Barlow - n/a
15-Aug-08, 02:41 PM
Hi Bufo,

I think you have missed the initial point of the comments - particularly mine.

My point is that basic mistakes have been made and you have filmed them and put them on the internet - this will give the sport a bad name.

Also if you are at an event and a craft is left to run away on its own - it will give the sport a bad name.

I appreciate that you may think is harmless and funny to do this but we have many problems trying to get site owners to take our sport seriously and this type of advertising doesn't help. We hold 6-8 National events every year in the UK, we need the support of the site owners to let us continue.



All I want is for everyone to have fun but to be safe - the driver and the passengers and the spectators. http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_biggrin.gif http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_biggrin.gif



See you in Sweden

jon_curtis - n/a
15-Aug-08, 03:19 PM
My fanguard has arround 4kg, what is not so scary heavy..., considering complete craft weights around 130 kg.



I did not save on weight on funguard and engine frame.



And I am not saying my fanguard is best, I just said I got blade in my back when I was using english standard type of fanguard.



Blade cut 4 wires like a knife hit the engine and than me.

I am saying just that 3 mm wire is not strong enough to stop the blade, and 4mm can stand the impact with no problems.



Ofcourse if that 2 kg of weight difference is not more important to you...




fair enough! but how fast were you spinning your fan? i dont think you appreciate, that guarding is appropriate to the energy within your fan system! we are not stupid over hear, calculating the energy and selecting suitable guarding is the key!



perhaps you have more energy in your fan than a uk guard can withstand, fine! but if thats the case perhaps your setup is not safe in the first place?



perhaps im barking up the wrong tree, but to make the various statements you have made with out any further data seems best guess engineering! show me the calculated data, and verified testing your guards are better than anyone elses (or more importantly suitable for your craft) and i will agree with you http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_smile.gif



with regards to dragons comments i agree, i dont understand why you need to advertise things, that quite frankly anyone else would be embrassed about! let alone the fact you are selling your selves as professional hovercraft manufactuers?? http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_rolleyes.gif

bufo - n/a
15-Aug-08, 04:51 PM
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fair enough! but how fast were you spinning your fan? i dont think you appreciate, that guarding is appropriate to the energy within your fan system! we are not stupid over hear, calculating the energy and selecting suitable guarding is the key!



perhaps you have more energy in your fan than a uk guard can withstand, fine! but if thats the case perhaps your setup is not safe in the first place?



perhaps im barking up the wrong tree, but to make the various statements you have made with out any further data seems best guess engineering! show me the calculated data, and verified testing your guards are better than anyone elses (or more importantly suitable for your craft) and i will agree with you
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I always fit Rotax engine that turns 900 mm impeller at its optimum turns 6850 - 6900 RPM, than reduction type B makes reduction to 2:58 rotaio, what gives about 2700 RPM to impeller...

Calculate tip speed by your self.



I had that impeller blast experience with reduction type E witch is about 2,64 rotaio (if I good remember), when I got the rock between the fanguard (I still do not know how that happen) and impeller blasted all arround. Duct has stand the blast and most parts stayed inside, only one flew out, hit the engine and than me...



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with regards to dragons comments i agree, i dont understand why you need to advertise things, that quite frankly anyone else would be embrassed about! let alone the fact you are selling your selves as professional hovercraft manufactuers??
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Ask the people who know me who am I... don't judge me... http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_smile.gif



I am able to manufacture complete hovercraft - that is correct, but that does not make me a proffessional manufacturer... I have the moulds, thats right... I have made them in my spare time with enthusiasm to hovercrafts... so what...? Is that bothering you... I just made what no one can not offer to me for buying...



You can make your own hovercrafts as well... or if you want to be profesional manufacturer, I can sell you moulds and be one... it does not bothering me... well, moulds are made professionaly... http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_razz.gif , but anywhay I do not have interest in serial manufacture of hovercrafts, it is too big investment, and to much work, if I would have so much money, I would rather invest it into stock market than in hovercraft manufacture...

Recantly article about MAD hovercraft - me was published at world hovercraft insider, see at link http://worldhovercraft.org/insider/july08.htm#manufacturer (worldhovercraft.org/insider/july08.htm#manufacturer)



Proffesional is hovpod and neotheric (I am talking about serial production), but their hovercrafts are far away from profesional... that is the bigest problem...



And yes, people talk about me, but that does not make me a professional hovercraft manufacturer http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_razz.gif as you say I am...

bufo - n/a
9-Sep-08, 07:01 PM
This is the place where we ride hovercrafts... - our poligone...



Up and down we go... BUFO onboard camera http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dS0cTpd_9NQ (www.youtube.com/watch?v=dS0cTpd_9NQ)

Sean Atterbury - n/a
10-Sep-08, 09:33 AM
http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_eek.gif http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_eek.gif http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_eek.gif http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_eek.gif http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_eek.gif look look, he put the lanyard one before moving off http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_eek.gif http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_eek.gif http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_eek.gif http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_eek.gif http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_eek.gif http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_eek.gif http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_eek.gif



GGGGGGoooooooooooooooo health and safety. http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_biggrin.gif

bufo - n/a
10-Sep-08, 12:56 PM
http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_cool.gif when did you see me without...

Sandra Barlow - n/a
10-Sep-08, 02:00 PM
Quote [Proffesional is hovpod and neotheric (I am talking about serial production), but their hovercrafts are far away from profesional... that is the bigest problem...]Quote





Mmmm hope you can prove this if they decide to sue you for slander http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_redface.gif



Can I suggest you just put a link to your site and let people decide if they wish to view your pictures - with such large attachments it makes it hard work for those who don't have broadband.

jon_curtis - n/a
10-Sep-08, 05:55 PM
I doubt he has ever seen the hovercraft he is talking down about!

bufo - n/a
10-Sep-08, 05:57 PM
we did not see any other serial hovercraf racing... did we...?



why not? http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_razz.gif if I can compete with 2/3 of racing hovercrafts class F50 in performance with serial BUFO, with no racing modifications... whats wrong with other recreational hovercrafts they can not compite to you guys... Something is terribly wrong with other so called '' best leisure hovercrafts'' that is offered to market...



now modifications are on with BUFO... ower the winter I will modificate the BUFO for the EHF 2009 racing season, as racing hovercraft not as recreational like on WHC - i belive I can get out of BUFO much stronger thrust and performance that is required for racing.

jon_curtis - n/a
10-Sep-08, 06:06 PM
what are you on about??

bufo - n/a
10-Sep-08, 06:16 PM
Please wait http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_smile.gif...



I plan to get out of BUFO about 106-110 kg of static thrust with serial engine 503 and 900 mm thurtst duct. Thats my plan, i know it is still not enough for the wining, but that is not an issue http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_biggrin.gif



Its all about fun!



If all goes by plan next EHF there will be 2 BUFOs racing by Slovenian Hovercraft club.

Nauti Buoy - n/a
10-Sep-08, 06:49 PM
i have to ask why you're comparing your rediculous looking toy to serious hovercraft with coastal capability?



Personally, i wouldn't be seen dead in one of the things. My wife loves them tho - says it all for me.... http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_rolleyes.gif And i fail to see the similarity between a 'freshwater special'(and a slow one at that) and a serious, well presented and professional craft such as the hovpod. Its like comparing a race car and a limo. Which ones best?



As a matter of interest, The Flying Fish team completed a return channel crossing from Dover to Calais a while back, both ways, with two craft, taking under an hour each way.



We chose that as a relevant means of proving the crafts straightforward reliabilty and performance over racing round a grassy field. What possible relevance does one meeting racing round the sanitised and secure environemnt of a field have to the inferred claim your craft is better in some way?



The Hoverfrog or whatever its called is never going to be a decent racer, and thus far hasn;t proved itself as a practical cruiser. I'm sure the girls will queue up to buy them however.



When it does, let me know if you fancy racing a 'serial' craft in a relevant environment.

bufo - n/a
10-Sep-08, 07:04 PM
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i have to ask why you're comparing your rediculous looking toy to serious hovercraft with coastal capability?
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Reducolus toy has the highest flotation of all so called coastal capability hovercrafts - for example - hov pod.



BUFO has about 170 liters serial flotation cabapility - 2 komponent closed cell polywretane that expands inside of plenum chamber to density you like, what gives you incredeble strenght and flotation, and does not effect the weight, that can be with no problems upgrated to 270 liters of flotattion for 2 person hovercraft... and that flottaiton means arround 6 kg differece in total weight of the craft and has no effect to performance of the craft.



Is that floatation not costal capability? You can not sink BUFO dude! http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_rolleyes.gif



Serial fuel tank is 33 liters on my grey BUFO... what gives you complete afternon riding time without refueling the craft... is that not crouising capability...?

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Low performance heavy waight hovercraft is bad excuse for term LIMO

I would rather say that LIMO is BUFO comparing to racers... about other crafts we should find other word term http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_twisted.gif



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I only can invite you for full afternoon ride on floods in slovenia... easy jet is matter of 30 EUR to come here for a ride http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_smile.gif as much as I know you were in Italy on wedding shooting fotos... why didn't you stop by?

Nauti Buoy - n/a
10-Sep-08, 07:08 PM
Just wait untl you've actually achieved something before you tell the world your craft are the best available. You#re making a total frogs arse of yourself.

Jamie Lewendon - n/a
10-Sep-08, 07:10 PM
Are we done here?

bufo - n/a
10-Sep-08, 07:14 PM
Not yet... here is advise for good night http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_smile.gif



Belive 50% of what is written and 50 % of what your eyes see... http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_smile.gif... life will be easier http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_wink.gif

This topic for example is most wieved on page one of the forum...

you split the wievs by 50 % - it is till most viewed... http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Nauti Buoy - n/a
10-Sep-08, 07:17 PM
hers some more advice.



It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

Jamie Lewendon - n/a
10-Sep-08, 07:48 PM
I tried being subtle. This thread has gone on for far to long, so I am locking it.



Jamie