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tonybroad - n/a
31-Jul-07, 12:58 PM
So the search is on for a UK World Championship venue....



Given the excellent course, racing, organisation and good European contingent this weekend, i would like to suggest Whittlesey. The local council are very welcoming and i'm sure would welcome the opportunity to hold a World Championship



Every venue we have has limitations and if the water issue could be resolved, i'm sure we'd all fit in although it may get tight,



What other requirements are needed besides what we normally provide ?



I think searching for a new one-off venue to hold a week's hovercrafting may prove difficult



Comments please

sixpackpert - n/a
31-Jul-07, 02:30 PM
Personally I don't think that any of our current sites (not courses, <u>sites</u>) are viable options for a worlds site for various reasons.



None of the courses have facilities such as showers (except Fawley and that is too small anyway) and the cost of getting shower blocks in is huge. You also then have the problem of supplying water to the showers and what to do with the waste water (it has to be stored and taken away because I don't believe you can let it simply run away, more cost).



Local residents complain at other courses that have 2 days of hovering let alone a week of it!



I think that the only 2 sites that have the space to put on a worlds are Claydon and Whittlesey, and while these are very good courses the sites are completely devoid of any sort of facilities.



I believe that we need to find a site that has permanent camping (like Sweden) as well as room for campers and tents. Also a site that has facilities (showers, shops) within it or very very close to it.



Just my 0.02 http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_rolleyes.gif <font size="1">lights blue touch paper and stands back![/COLOR] http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_lol.gif

jon_curtis - n/a
31-Jul-07, 04:00 PM
http://www.portablefacilities.co.uk/temporary-toilets-shower (http://www.portablefacilities.co.uk/temporary-toilets-showers.htm) s.htm

kevinf - n/a
31-Jul-07, 06:19 PM
On top of the water/showers/toilets requirements, add in the need for the provision of substantial electrical hook-up, facilities for briefings, presentations, catering - the event runs on for a good week, not just 2/3 days so vans and campers etc need the extra facilities, and participants need entertainment too.



Add to this twice as many craft as at Whittlesey, and at least double the camping units and you can see how our existing venues would struggle.



Equally, the existing teams of organisers already work extremely hard putting on the current round of National and International events with the level of facilities we have become used to. The additional work required by the organisers for a World class event on our existing venues would be huge (and so would the costs), so it makes sense to try and find a venue which has many of these facilities already to hand.



Kevin

Jim Lyne - n/a
1-Aug-07, 07:17 AM
Thanks for all the interest in the World Championships. Getting the right site is going to be the top priority, and I agree with comments made by the postings.



We must find somewhere that has facilities if it is not going to cost a fortune, and the one thing that could turn things in the favour of a site close to residencies is Keith Oakley’s work with noise generation! Cut the noise a bit and many other sites could open up.



As for the date, well, speaking to Magnus at the weekend there is a slight possibility that Sweden may try to pick up the Norway slot in 2008. This anyway would be too soon for us and so we need to consider 2009 (if no Sweden) or 2010 if they go ahead.



Lets all look for possible sites.



A race course like Whittlesey, a sports facility like Gang Warily, and a fixed camping area like Cosgrove Water Park.



Jim Lyne

keith rhodes - n/a
1-Aug-07, 04:05 PM
i will call into the national regatta centre at holme perripont just outside nottingham to see if there is a suitable stretch of water and land combination to suit our needs. i know a few of the poeple there.

this place has everty thing else needed including accommodation camping and catering in a very modern building.

any guide on dates?

Jonathan - n/a
1-Aug-07, 08:59 PM
Regarding the worlds,

what sort of size/length racetrack is required/preferred? obviously Black Ditch is too small, Isn't Claydon about the biggest we have??

The French course was VERY Long, but IMO gave great racing possibilities, the long straights showed the outright speed of the F1's and the laptimes made the differences between the formulae obvious to spectators.

THe German course was technically interesting, ut had only one really fast straight, and the water section was a 'little tight' BUT the Ramp/Jump really made up for it (Spectacular wether you got it right or wrong) and was a (Herons leap excepted) novel feature.

How large a grid area is really required? At Whittlesey the F503 field barely fitted onto the grid and it felt a little tight!!

sixpackpert - n/a
1-Aug-07, 10:59 PM
IMO Berlin was a fantastic course, fast in parts, technical in others, and the site had all the facilities available (at a cost). I personally think Berlin set the benchmark for future worlds. I did not race in France but from an observers point of view thought the course was good...



Berlin is the benchmark in my view.

Jim Lyne - n/a
2-Aug-07, 09:49 AM
The most important thing at the moment is not to commit the Club to anything. The earliest it would be is 2009. I must also get a Council vote on submitting a request to the World Federation. The would need to have to under right all costs, and they would be spending our money.



I think a course about the size of Whittlesey or the last French World’s is ideal. My own view is that a shorter land section makes marshalling much easier, but the water sections need fast water rescue, not only for drivers safety, but also clearing the course of stricken craft and the hold up to programmes this causes.



With regard to the numbers of craft racing, the rules allow for heats to be run. I can see this would be important for Formula 50 (503 in UK) but would suggest this may not be so important for other formulas.



We must also bear in mind that we would need to be able to run the endurance races.



I am delighted with the interest and the messages of support.



Jim Lyne

ross@rhpcs.com - n/a
2-Aug-07, 05:23 PM
Having also been present at the Worlds in France, it was good to see how well some things work and some don't, I work on many festivals and events all over the country and we usually end up bringing everything in from scratch.



Ironically enough I'm sat at Stanford Hall (a venue for hovercraft racing from days gone by) posting this from an Outside Broadcast truck next to more facilities than you can shake a stick at.



We have nothing provided by the site at all and there is a full kitchen for 1000 diners tonight so it does prove anything is possible!



I have experience of many festivals and a list of contacts as long as my arm for tents, showers, port-a-loos (the nice posh ones!) mobile stages, generator rental, power distribution etc etc so I'm more than happy to help with any team keen enough to make it happen.



Also living in Nottingham, I'd love it to be at the National Watersports centre so keep me posted on that!



I believe that Claydon would be an excellent choice as it already has a lot of spectators and open space!





Ross Hammond http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_smile.gif

keith rhodes - n/a
2-Aug-07, 07:10 PM
the problems going to be the national regatta centre will be booked up for about 3 years in advance.

i am a bit suprised that the venue of such an important?? event as a world championships is being bashed about less than 12 months from it's due date!

is the orgainisation really this bad?

some one commented to me recently that we don't even measure up to banger racing in terms of popularity. well that is true as it is a very minority activity, but the organisational skills must be there somewhere within this amateur and voluntary organisation? just because it's not big bucks doesn't mean its got to be P*** poorly organised.

anyway - i'm still trying to find out how the fiefdoms work in the gb club let alone get a handle on anything bigger. boy does this thing have hang ups!

Jonathan - n/a
3-Aug-07, 02:25 AM
The most important thing at the moment is not to commit the Club to anything. The earliest it would be is 2009. I must also get a Council vote on submitting a request to the World Federation. The would need to have to under right all costs, and they would be spending our money.

This Begs several questions: 1) What did the last British WHC cost?

2)What would racers be willing to pay to compete?? For we Brits, removing the simple cost of crossing the briny means even a charge of 200 would leave us "quids in", and that, I believe is cheap for a week long event. it could also enable us to subsidise entrants from far flung countries (why charge the Americans/Canadians/Australians when they have endured massive expense just to get to England??)



I think a course about the size of Whittlesey or the last French World’s is ideal. My own view is that a shorter land section makes marshalling much easier, but the water sections need fast water rescue, not only for drivers safety, but also clearing the course of stricken craft and the hold up to programmes this causes.

Course: Well we may have little choice on tis matter, And as for the Fast water resue, I Imagine any number of our cruiser brethren could do this! or we could try & borrow one of the specialist boats used in powerboat racing



With regard to the numbers of craft racing, the rules allow for heats to be run. I can see this would be important for Formula 50 (503 in UK) but would suggest this may not be so important for other formulas.

We must also bear in mind that we would need to be able to run the endurance races.

Do we know how many craft registered for the last 4 World championships and how any actually turned up?? Of course we could expect a massive UK contingent



I am delighted with the interest and the messages of support.



Jim Lyne






Personally I'm practically drooling at the thought of a British worlds....

Jonathan

Jim Lyne - n/a
3-Aug-07, 09:27 AM
Keep the positive replies coming in. I know from my involvement with the Two British Worlds the HCGB has run, just how long it takes to get things organised. Of course we can organise a race meeting at the drop of a hat, but a World event is different. As Keith said some sites are booked up years in advance.



It must be remembered that many overseas drivers will be coming for a holiday as well, and I want to make sure they have a good time.



One delay will be getting the OK from the World Hovercraft Federation. As past Secretary I know this can be a long job sometimes.



I am begining to put together a Organising Committee Structure to put before Council at the next meeting.



Jim Lyne

HCGB Chairman

peterd51 - n/a
6-Aug-07, 12:06 PM
Hi,



does it have to be 'inland' or can it be run on a seaside?



If so, Cleethorpes seafront in the Humber Estuary has several miles of sand.



Camping is available just up the beach (just outside the town really).



Drawbacks...Cleethorpes Council are dead from the neck up (not noted for going for anything 'new') and the sea goes out about a mile twice a day.



The second point could be covered by getting a JCB out on the beach to scallop out some sand and let the 'hollow' fill with water on the next tide...it'd gradually fill in over the next few days as the sand shifted back.



Regards

Peter

kevinf - n/a
6-Aug-07, 12:17 PM
Hi Peter



Nice idea, but it's inland racing unfortunately. Coastal racing is a whole different kettle of fish (or should it be hovercraft full of eels?) with completely different requirements.



Kevin

Jonathan - n/a
7-Aug-07, 02:05 AM
I work on many festivals and events all over the country and we usually end up bringing everything in from scratch.

Ironically enough I'm sat at Stanford Hall (a venue for hovercraft racing from days gone by) posting this from an Outside Broadcast truck next to more facilities than you can shake a stick at.

I have experience of many festivals and a list of contacts as long as my arm for tents, showers, port-a-loos (the nice posh ones!) mobile stages, generator rental, power distribution etc etc so I'm more than happy to help with any team keen enough to make it happen.

<font color="darkred">Brilliant! looks like you're "on the commmittee", all we need now is to work out how many racers/non-racers would want to attend.[/COLOR]

I believe that Claydon would be an excellent choice as it already has a lot of spectators and open space!

<font color="darkred">[/COLOR]Ross Hammond http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_smile.gif






In order to help

Does anybody know many craft have attended the last few worlds?

And how many camping units/people attended?

Jonathan

ross@rhpcs.com - n/a
7-Aug-07, 07:40 AM
From the whc2006.com site, before the event happened I believe (so not final numbers but it does give a vauge idea) :-









scheduled Today

Drivers 120 161

Number crafts on paddock 120 150

Camping :

Motorhomes 60 87

Tents 80 137

Races series to divide in two 2 3

Meals on Saturday evening 400/500 550/600

ross@rhpcs.com - n/a
7-Aug-07, 07:42 AM
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Crappy browser double posted.

Russ Pullen - n/a
7-Aug-07, 09:59 AM
Hi,



does it have to be 'inland' or can it be run on a seaside?




(biting sarcasm mode on> Good Grief NO! Peter, Hovercraft don't race on sand or anywhere near salt, waves are a no-no - so are gullies or bumps. No, real racing take splace on glassy smooth ponds and nicely mown lawns with two-tone stripey grass. Challenging conditions are a big turn off <off>



Moving away from inland softy racing would take too much imagination, its just not on, and you're to styop thinking like that. Immediately. http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_biggrin.gif

Jim Lyne - n/a
7-Aug-07, 01:22 PM
If you were at Stanford working on the Firework Competition then, thats what I want for the Worlds. Fantastic! How ever much did it cost?



Jim Lyne

ross@rhpcs.com - n/a
7-Aug-07, 05:44 PM
I was aware of the fireworks competition but I was actually doing a 25th Birthday Party for the Next Clothes Stores (which was probably more expensive than the fireworks competition!)



We had some proper 80's throwbacks doing live sets, Go West, ABC, Human League, Toyah and a very rough sounding Belinda Carlisle (probably will be availble for the worlds entertainment and might need the money http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_smile.gif

GavinParson - n/a
8-Aug-07, 08:51 AM
Yup, that sounds spot on. Hovercraft racing is still stuck in the 80s! (how many more uses can they find for a Rotax 503?)

Might as well have some 80s entertainment as well.

Lee w - n/a
8-Aug-07, 08:09 PM
The Stanford event at the weekend was very well put together. See the attached picture of the marquee. (For those who used to come to Stanford - The queue of cars to get into the event stretched from Stanford all the way through Swinford and along the A14.)



Gavin - what engine do you recommend we use?







index.php?t=getfile&id=844&private=0

ross@rhpcs.com - n/a
8-Aug-07, 08:32 PM
2nd Event day had 88 coaches deliver punters in, not really surprised it backed up!!



Have some pictures from the dark side of the gig and couldn't resist some of the old course!



http://www.rhpcs.com/stanford





Stanford from what I remember wasn't for those with a fear of large trees!



Once again I'll thank Mr Paul Hibbard for the ride I had round the course back around 96/97 in his #5 F1 craft, made quite an impression on me!

nickyd - n/a
8-Aug-07, 09:22 PM
Hands up who would love another burn round Stanford then!!

GavinParson - n/a
9-Aug-07, 11:11 AM
The site certainly looks in good condition and they may even agree to a "one off event". However, no doubt Next paid them a good few thousand pounds to use the site and the HCGB is unlikely to be prepared to part with such sums.

The trouble is that most of the big sites have become highly commercial, look at Weston Park. They can make millions from a V festival. A bunch of amateurs offering a measly 500 for the weekend isn't going to go down well.

It's probably best to go for an untried site that fancies a punt with something "new". I think the rule that says that a site must have been raced on before is pointless. As long as it ticks all the right boxes with regard to size, features and amenities then give it a go.

This would never have been a problem with holding a coastal championship. We had sites begging us to hold events there. Never mind eh?

Jim Lyne - n/a
9-Aug-07, 12:53 PM
A quick reply to Russ and Gavin regarding off-shore Hovercraft Racing.



The rules for a World event do not stipulate that it is for sheltered environs as the British Regulations do. The only reference is in the construction regulations which state:



1.3.1. These requirements apply to Racing Hovercraft having a dry weight of less than 500kg dry weight, for sporting use. Craft over 500 kg will need special consideration by Chief Scrutineer of the meeting.

1.3.2. Craft built to these requirements are not necessarily suitable for use in open environments.



I think that the World Federation would not sanction an off-shore race as the majority of craft will not be suitable. Its like asking hydroplanes and Jet Sprint boats to race through surf or Racing Saloon car of F1 cars to race through a rough rally stage.



The concept of off-shore racing could be put before the WHF and EHF to see what reaction member Countries have on the matter.



As for stuck in the 80s, I think any one who saw the F1 racing at Whittlesey would disagree.



Jim Lyne

peterd51 - n/a
9-Aug-07, 08:08 PM
Hi Guys,



I can see where racing from sand onto a tidal flow might cause problems with waves, etc, on hovercraft that aren't built for it...



and without wishing to labour the point...



when the tide goes 'out' at a place like Cleethorpes it exposes over a mile of sand/mud. The beach there is also about three miles long.



The beach is pretty flat, no gullies or such but if a JCB spent a couple of days scooping out a couple of feet of sand over several areas then when the tide came in it'd create large pools of shallow water, ie, no waves.



Construct a jump ramp into one of these ponds, as was mentioned in an earlier post and you've got pretty much everything required.



The races would need to be scheduled over a 5 - 6 hour period from the tide being about half-way out to half-way in.



The Humber is reasonably sheltered, it's not like being out in the North Sea or English Channel, etc.



Choose a weekend like the one coming up, if possible, when the local Gala or Festival is on and there'll be a couple of hundred thousand spectators around.



The other point to note is there's also miles of space for cruisers to operate while the racing is going on. Along the low-tide line from the docks to the WWII forts at the Humber mouth it's about five miles.



Cruisers on the 'north prom' racers on the central and south proms.



Regards

Peter

GavinParson - n/a
10-Aug-07, 09:18 AM
Quite right, and similar sites such as Weston Super Mare or Southport would offer equally good opportunities with the high likelihood of good crowds.

Unfortunately it does not conform to the inland racing "freshwater special" format and there wouldn't be sufficient capable craft to make it viable as well as the obvious lack of interest from UK drivers.

That said, there are certainly a good pool of cruisers, especially from the US who like a good long cruise and an endurance type event could be organised especially if the endurance formula implemented at the last Worlds was to continue.

Ideally an "inland site" near the sea would be good where a variety of events both on fresh and salt water could take place over a week. A bit like at Terre Haute with the racing and a long cruise and the speed trials.

rennick - n/a
14-Aug-07, 01:42 PM
I think you're on the right track. Last year Owen Ellis brought up the excellent point that the UK should be marking the very significant event of the 60th anniversary of the SR.N1 channel crossing with a cruise - perhaps a "Channel Raid" retracing the path? (It made the channel crossing on July 25th, 1959)



Owen made the suggestion to me recently of having both the WHC in the UK at an appropriate inland site and the Channel Raid and hover-gathering within the same week. As Gavin pointed out, it might bring in a few more overseas participants who are primarily interested in cruising.



Bob

ivan pullen - n/a
14-Aug-07, 04:53 PM
The last time we were att Hunstanton, the owner of the huge caravan site, Mr Searle, came round and offered the use of a site, on his land, for hovercraft meetings.

This is like a links golf course, right beside the sea, but not in it. However cruisers could use the coast.

This information was passed on, but never acted on.

As I recall it has all that is needed for a worlds, plenty of space, a nearby caravan site, and all the services.

It only needs somebody to follow it up, as he seemed as tho’ he would be all for it and willing to help.

The “club” at Hunstanton are not of the hoverclub, so will do nothing about it, and will probably be obstructive, but that could be overcome.

It seemed the ideal place, and could well lead to an additional site for regular meetings.

It just needs some local effort, to chase it down.

Keith Oakley - n/a
14-Aug-07, 06:09 PM
Great idea, and it is in Sir Christophers home county....

bryan - n/a
14-Aug-07, 07:44 PM
ALTHOUGH I STILL ENJOY INSHORE RACING AND MORE THAN LIKLEY WILL STILL BE AROUND FOR THE ANOTHER POOR SHOT AT THE TITLE. A WORLDS EVENT ON A GOOD UK COURSE IS WAY OFF. HOWEVER WITH THE DECLINE OFF INSHORE SITES AND THE OPEN OFFERS FOR OFFSHORE EVENTS I THINK A CHANGE MAYBE DUE. THE ODD COMMENT TO MENTION THAT THERE ARE NO APPROPRIATE CRAFT AVAILABLE ARE WAY OFF. A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT HAS BEEN SPENT ON CREATING A TWIN ENGINE CRAFT JUST FOR THIS TYPE OF EVENT AND SO FAR HAS PROVEN OUTSTANDING.I HAVE JUST ARRIVED BACK FROM THE RHONE RAID AND THE CRAFT WAS CLOCKED AT AN EASY 50MPH+. BRING BACK OFFSHORE! IF YOU HAVN,T TRYED SPEEDING ACROSS SAND BANKS AND ROUGH WATER ITS TIME YOU PULLED UP A CHAIR! SEE YOU ALL ON THE BANKS OF THE SEVERN OCTOBER 6TH AND 7TH.

JUST TO ADD, A TOP INSHORE F1 13,000 AND A LOT OF KNOWLEDGE AND LOADS OF SPANNERS,120LITRES OF FUEL A MEETING.BARGIN!

OF COURSE IT HAS BEEN OVERWHELMED BY DRIVERS COMING UP THROUGH THE RANKS LETS NAME THEM ........ HAVE I MISSED ANY. OH AND MOST OF THEM WERE BORN IN THE 80,S.

OFFSHORE RACING TIME FOR A CHANGE. NOT TO SOUND TO NEGITIVE AN ENGLISH WORLDS HAS MY FULL SUPPORT AND I WOULD HELP IN ANY WAY I COULD WHAT EVER THE SITE!

Jonathan - n/a
14-Aug-07, 08:43 PM
The last time we were at Hunstanton, the owner of the huge caravan site, Mr Searle, came round and offered the use of a site, on his land, for hovercraft meetings.

This is like a links golf course, right beside the sea, but not in it.

As I recall it has all that is needed for a worlds, plenty of space, a nearby caravan site, and all the services.

It seemed the ideal place, and could well lead to an additional site for regular meetings.

It just needs some local effort, to chase it down.




Been to Searles many times (actually every November since about 1988), Although only on the 'static' caravan site. This does have the entertainment facilities we need. Although I haven't been on the links site, MOST golf courses don't have lots of water on them....

saying that, its a nice place....



BTW, I almost killed my Hovercraft engine at Hunstanton (before I started racing), by running on the beach/close in offshore because I didn't understand 2-stroke engines, and didn't protect it against salt and then put it away for the winter.....

GavinParson - n/a
14-Aug-07, 11:33 PM
Well said Bryan. I know there are craft around that are more than capable of managing coastal events and you hit the nail on the head about inland sites.

Unfortunately we couldn't tempt enough drivers to use those capable craft to keep a coastal series going. It was an impossible task trying to tempt people away from the big comfort zone of the inland series.



I think the Zapcats/ Thundercats had the right idea. Create a vehicle that's unique, set up an independent company/club to run a race series and sell itself to Regattas/ festivals etc.



Dunno about the Searles thing. I never saw the other site that Mr Searles had in mind but you'd never get the volume of camping units for a World Champs in his caravan park!

Russ Pullen - n/a
16-Aug-07, 02:45 PM
ALTHOUGH I STILL ENJOY INSHORE RACING AND MORE THAN LIKLEY WILL STILL BE AROUND FOR THE ANOTHER POOR SHOT AT THE TITLE. A WORLDS EVENT ON A GOOD UK COURSE IS WAY OFF. HOWEVER WITH THE DECLINE OFF INSHORE SITES AND THE OPEN OFFERS FOR OFFSHORE EVENTS I THINK A CHANGE MAYBE DUE. THE ODD COMMENT TO MENTION THAT THERE ARE NO APPROPRIATE CRAFT AVAILABLE ARE WAY OFF. A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT HAS BEEN SPENT ON CREATING A TWIN ENGINE CRAFT JUST FOR THIS TYPE OF EVENT AND SO FAR HAS PROVEN OUTSTANDING.I HAVE JUST ARRIVED BACK FROM THE RHONE RAID AND THE CRAFT WAS CLOCKED AT AN EASY 50MPH+. <font size="7">BRING BACK OFFSHORE![/COLOR] IF YOU HAVN,T TRYED SPEEDING ACROSS SAND BANKS AND ROUGH WATER ITS TIME YOU PULLED UP A CHAIR! SEE YOU ALL ON THE BANKS OF THE SEVERN OCTOBER 6TH AND 7TH.

JUST TO ADD, A TOP INSHORE F1 13,000 AND A LOT OF KNOWLEDGE AND LOADS OF SPANNERS,120LITRES OF FUEL A MEETING.BARGIN!

OF COURSE IT HAS BEEN OVERWHELMED BY DRIVERS COMING UP THROUGH THE RANKS LETS NAME THEM ........ HAVE I MISSED ANY. OH AND MOST OF THEM WERE BORN IN THE 80,S.

OFFSHORE RACING TIME FOR A CHANGE. NOT TO SOUND TO NEGITIVE AN ENGLISH WORLDS HAS MY FULL SUPPORT AND I WOULD HELP IN ANY WAY I COULD WHAT EVER THE SITE!




Hear hear! http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_smile.gif

slarman257@aol.com - n/a
16-Aug-07, 05:27 PM
Am i missing something here, did the HCGB organise the offshore events? is there any reason why you cant organise them yourselves and bring your beloved offshore events back to life.



Confused

bryan - n/a
16-Aug-07, 05:52 PM
Well F1 Simon wouldn,t be good to intergrate the both events maybe one craft which could race inshore or offshore with ease!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! heres one i prepared just incase. For the price of one F1 craft you and your mother could have one each.

Take a look on the severn 6th and 7th October!

slarman257@aol.com - n/a
16-Aug-07, 07:11 PM
Bryan, they where actually serious questions! i don't understand the way Offshore racing is run or financed!

my point was that if the club is not providing for you as offshore racers whats to stop you guys setting up your own infrastructure as an enabling tool?



As for running offshore and inshore events side by side at a worlds i'm all for it! but not on the basis that everyone races on the shoreline etc. Personally my interests are with inshore racing and others peoples may be with offshore and i think that both have their place. The idea of running the worlds near a coastal venue with both freshwater and saltwater racing is great if run mid-summer as a good spectator turn-out is highly likely, but for me if i want to go to sea i'll take my boat thanks!



Heres a picture of it, my mum loves it (she hates hovercrafts)and yes it did cost less than my F1, but its not all about the cost for all of us.



Simon Larman

bryan - n/a
18-Aug-07, 09:55 AM
Sorry mate were slipping away from the title! A worlds may well be possible ,but it will be left to the few to sort out.If members would like to step out from there opinions and add somthing physicle the job would be easy!This includes me!More input please!

keith rhodes - n/a
18-Aug-07, 07:48 PM
yes - back to the plot then!



i looked at the national regatta centre but it's tight for a super size paddock with start line on land.

i looked at some local sailing clubs but again landfall is the issue even when they have the amenities in place.

donnington racing circuit has a massive infield and on a low level track event it might be possible to use the infield - but no water.

mallory park has water but we would need the whole circuitas it's too small a site overall.

still if this gives someone a bright idea to go look at a potential location then its helped.



question - would a paddock on tarmac just be too unacceptable?

Russ Pullen - n/a
19-Aug-07, 09:19 AM
question - would a paddock on tarmac just be too unacceptable?




Sounds like a fabulous idea to me, especially if the weather like it was in france.

Jonathan - n/a
19-Aug-07, 10:47 PM
Just found a problem with a tarmac paddock, rather hard to peg your gazebo down! (Although it would be much easier to tidyup afterwards!).

hoverbucks - n/a
29-Aug-07, 05:00 PM
FYI-

The prospect of a World Championship in the UK sometime in the next few years has generated above average interest on this side of the Pond. (based on those I have spoken to)