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super si - n/a
16-Apr-08, 06:19 PM
Hi all



Has anybody thought about the possibility of a formula specifically designed for the homebuilder, for example using craft like the simple cyclone?

I thought this would be a great way to encourage new members, if they were able to build their own craft from scratch with relatively little expence, maybe as a father son or daughter project.

I think this is good because part of the fun is building your own craft?



I wonder how many current members out there started out in the hoverclub having built a cyclone or similar?



What does everybody think? http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_smile.gif

Brian G Reynolds - n/a
16-Apr-08, 07:15 PM
Hi Simon, I raced my first craft which I deeply enjoyed building and racing! it went very well indeed, much faster than I thought it would.



I think the only problem with this idea would be the time.



The poor marshalls and workers are extreamly busy running the events as they are, there is no time for another formula.



I think an important thing is that if you build a craft then the chances are it is your first foray into racing in which case you will be in the novices any way and believe me that is most entertaining.



Just my 2p worth.



B.

super si - n/a
16-Apr-08, 07:43 PM
Hi Brian

I completely agree, This is just food for thought but maybe something like this could be run in conjunction with something else, It would enable people to continue using their proudly homebuilt craft in a competative environment.

Its a real shame that there doesnt seem to be many schools, scouts and other parties building and racing their own craft i assume this is to do with health and safety constraints.

Thanks for the reply.

Brian G Reynolds - n/a
16-Apr-08, 08:20 PM
Health and safety is banded about as a way of people not doing anythig, yes there are some (lots) of pathetic rules but mostly it is used as an excuse not to do somethig....



Maybe some of the hover-ins could be used but this might stop the fun side of these and the fact that you can play as much or as little as you wish.



Yes it is a shame all the same, I am a big fan of having fun but I have found that racing is dominated by a few people that must win at all costs even by running into you to get past when a safe route is open to them.



Bring back fun into ALL sports..... or is that an oximoron....



There has been talk about opening a school, I think Jake has been involved in the thought of this? (Jake?) but I doubt there is the interest to offset the cost...



B.

sixpackpert - n/a
16-Apr-08, 08:25 PM
Hi Brian

I completely agree, This is just food for thought but maybe something like this could be run in conjunction with something else, It would enable people to continue using their proudly homebuilt craft in a competative environment.

Its a real shame that there doesnt seem to be many schools, scouts and other parties building and racing their own craft i assume this is to do with health and safety constraints.

Thanks for the reply.




Yep health and safety has ruined most fun activities that schools/youth groups can take part in. The paperwork involved is ridiculous so I believe.



Fundamentally we all race homebuilds. IMHO it is better to buy a hull (new or used) and build from there. I know that plans are available but the craft will be heavy and uncompetitive, time and designs have moved on. If you want to race then I would always recommend getting a working craft at a reasonable price so that you can cut your teeth on something that won't let you down and will provide you with some fun without all the spanners! Once you have done your novices and you have gained good experience of how the crafts work and which formula's you are interested in then you can tailor you build/tweaking around that. You can pick up a second hand hull/craft for not much money and the hard work is done. There is nothing more soul destroying than turning up to race meeting, paying your entry fees and spending all weekend pulling and pulling the starter and not getting out (unless you like the engineering challenge), or doing half a race because something that you thought would be okay isn't and breaks!



Father and son/daughter racing can be done with a Formula 3 craft in the current rules.



With regard to another formula, as Brian says, the race weekends are stretched as it is (sometimes the last race of the day has to dropped because of over-run). Also, and this is only my opinion, we give out too many trophies already. Having yet another set of trophies is not on. In novices you're aim is to qualify, you get a trophy for that. After that you can aim to be best newcomer (another trophy). After that you aim to be the best in the formula you choose. This means that you have something to aim for. If you don't want to spend the money to be a front runner then that is fine, you turn up and race with someone that is in the same area of the pack as you, this can be just as rewarding as winning a trophy. Or just turn up and enjoy using your craft.



Please don't get me wrong, I am not being harsh towards your suggestion, suggestions are what we need http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_smile.gif , but I don't think introducing another formula for a very old design is the way forward. I also believe that you would very quickly become bored of being a moving chicane!



So in summary, come along with your homebuild, have some fun http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_biggrin.gif . See what else is available and move onto formula's in which you can race and compete for trophies.



Just my opinions, and I am sure someone else will disagree with some/most/all of my opinions http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_biggrin.gif http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e253/sixpackpert/boxedin.gif

super si - n/a
16-Apr-08, 08:27 PM
Tell me more about this school? sounds excellent...

school for hovercrafting?

john stead - n/a
16-Apr-08, 09:35 PM
[quote title=Sixpack Pert wrote on Wed, 16 April 2008 21:25][ In novices you're aim is to qualify, you get a trophy for that.

hi jon

you leave trophies for novices alone the only ones i have are from novice racing http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_biggrin.gif http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_twisted.gif

HAVERCRAFT - n/a
16-Apr-08, 10:35 PM
I have in idea to attract new members, let them know the rules as well as the chosen few