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jon_curtis - n/a
23-Jun-08, 06:37 PM
well, noticed this evening that morrisons have changed thier pumps down hear, and are now selling a 'bio-diesel' and its the same price as normal diesel!!! http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_cry.gif



this stuff is based on a 30% mix of reprocessed hydrocrabon based oil 'waste oil' so its really a deisel blend, not a true biodeisel, and meets the requirements of EN590.



ITS THE SAME PRICE! and having had a chat with customs, due to its nature, the same tax is payable as normal deisel http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_sad.gif



im glad i didnt put any in as chucking this ontop of 20 litres of veg oil might not have been the best option!



however next time i go by, i am going to buy a couple of litres and do some low temperature tests to see the effect of low temp on the viscosity of the fuel! (which i have done to get the blend i run at the min).



anyhow, thought this might be of interest to some of you, and if you think about putting it in your vehicle, i would think twice if you have common rail injection!

JOSH -D - n/a
23-Jun-08, 06:39 PM
so whats the point of bio-deasels again???? if there the same price then you should go for the higher quality stuff!!!

Ian Brooks - n/a
23-Jun-08, 09:35 PM
The point is having a world to live in 50 years time!



Ian

JOSH -D - n/a
24-Jun-08, 07:57 AM
yer but the biodeasel is a mix of the real stuff so its just as bad !!!

Jonathan - n/a
24-Jun-08, 01:36 PM
yer but the biodeasel is a mix of the real stuff so its just as bad !!!




Personally I think its worse...

BTW, a couple of my mates run their cars on DERV because one of them has a haulage company with a DERV tank & pump. He also sells it to his customers, Apparently the cars acheive better mpg and performance!

They probably also get lower emissions due to the strict nature of new truck emissions requiring better fuel!



P.s. its Diesel ('i' before 'e' except after 'c' http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_twisted.gif )

JOSH -D - n/a
24-Jun-08, 02:08 PM
shhhh i new that.................... no really i did =]

profqwerty - n/a
24-Jun-08, 02:32 PM
But is DERV cheaper? that's what matters..



(I thought it was the same as diesel...??)

sixpackpert - n/a
24-Jun-08, 03:17 PM
P.s. its Diesel ('i' before 'e' except after 'c' http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_twisted.gif )




Apart from in the case of the word height. http://www.jonrb.com/emoticons/teacher.gif



ETA: Oh and freight. http://www.jonrb.com/emoticons/read.gif http://www.jonrb.com/emoticons/nerd.gif

jon_curtis - n/a
24-Jun-08, 05:09 PM
derv is deisel!



Deisel Engine Road Vehicle! as for different fuels for trucks etc, was not aware of this! wonder what it is he is selling?



if perhaps your talking about 28sec oil, or heating oil! then this is bad to put into a deisel car as it has wax in it, to decrease viscosity at low temperatures, but if this is burnt in a normal desiel engine it burns with hot spots and is bad for the engine! also tax would be payable on 28sec oil!

Jonathan - n/a
24-Jun-08, 10:51 PM
I always thought of truck fuel as DERV.... my Bad http://hovercraft.org.uk/images/icons/smiley_icons/icon_redface.gif

It's truck diesel he's selling and he's used it in his road cars for years