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KipMac
8-Dec-09, 05:13 PM
Easter Weekend Around the IOW Cruise.

I was intending to wait a bit longer as we are waiting for approval from the Land Agency ref the Hovercraft Museum facilities.
Hopefully approval will be forthcoming shortly.
However in order avoid any speculation this is where we are today.

On the Easter Weekend which is Good Friday 2nd to Easter Monday 5th April there will be an opportunity to do an around the Isle of Wight Cruise.
Thanks to Warwick Jacobs and his fellow trustee we will be based at the Hovercraft Museum at Lee on Solent.
The museum will be holding an Open Event over the holiday period.
We have the field available to us for camping and of course the slipway directly on to the Solent.
The plan at this stage is to use the first 3 days but any one who wishes to stay on for the Monday would be welcome.
Obviously an event like this is very weather dependent but it is anticipated that there will be a compulsory “shakedown” run on the Friday.
The Cruise day to be the best of the remaining 2 days.

It is 92 kms around the Island and though there is vehicular access to most beaches, some parts, in particular around the South West coastline are not accessible by road.
The intention is that it will be a genuine touristy type cruise taking time out to smell the diesel (when you pass the hoverport at Ryde) and in no way a time trial.

An escort boat is highly desirable and volunteers for this role would be greatly appreciated.
An island based vehicle with trailer would again be a great help. Again any volunteers?
Any thoughts regarding points of interest, refuelling both craft and occupants, etc, gratefully received.

Please e-mail me at kip3@blueyonder.co.uk (kip3@blueyonder.co.uk) if you would like to participate so that I have a feel for likely numbers.
Last year at Sheppey only 2 of you said that you were coming and in the end there were15. It really does help if you can say you will attend as soon as you are able.

I will go further into the logistics at a later date as and when the relevant practicalities are sorted.
Initially I just wish to establish the event and date.

Regards to All, Kip

campbe5177
8-Dec-09, 06:13 PM
Sounds Great!!!
Email sent
Best Regards
Chris

redmonds
8-Dec-09, 06:40 PM
The redmonds will be there with two craft. May also be able to provide vehical on island with trailer.

KipMac
18-Jan-10, 06:49 PM
I am sure that you will all agree with me that although we would not be making the most epic journey of the century it will be a trip where a breakdown can have a serious consequence.
At the least the recovery of a craft would involve several others and possibly take quite a long time.
As a group we therefore have to give ourselves the best chance of success.

With this in mind I believe that the integrity of the craft is the most important factor.
In fair conditions almost any craft and driver could make such a trip.

From the messages received to date I anticipate a very good attendance and there will inevitably be new craft and possibly drivers.
Also as this is likely to be the first serious outing for craft, many of which will have been worked on, modified, etc. we need to be especially vigilante.
Therefore on Friday, there will be informal scrutineering and a Mandatory shake down run of around 10 miles to sort out craft and drivers.

Please be advised that you may not automatically receive approval for the Trip.

Regarding driver qualifications, I may differ somewhat from the general position I believe the club holds.
Very few of us have ever really operated in anything other than moderate conditions as usually found up to wind force 4.
I do not believe many of us can truly say we are experienced in rough weather open sea where life truly is in danger.
We only operate, and are experienced in a moderate comfort zone.
If the weather is adverse we will not go.
We will have among us fully qualified marine experts who will have the final say.
This will be relaxed cruise with a comfortable time table and a driver of limited hours experience should have no problems in a suitable craft.
Driving a craft for 100 hours on a lake teaches nothing
I believe that this type of trip with escort boats and the company of experienced members is a perfect opportunity to safely develop the skills of us all.

( Please feel free to comment on the above)

Camping will be available from Thursday afternoon until Monday.
There will be an entry fee of £30.00.
£5.00 of which will go to a fund to help out on escort and recovery expenses and the £25.00 to a donation to the Museum.
In addition there will be a camping fee of £2.50 per night per person excluding those who have paid the £30.00 entry fee again proceeds to any costs and Museum funds.
I will be at the AGM and would appreciate any advice and input that would help.

Regards to all.

Kip

N.B Please e-mail me kip3@blueyonder.co.uk (kip3@blueyonder.co.uk) if you are coming and have not yet told me.

John Robertson
18-Jan-10, 07:43 PM
( Please feel free to comment on the above)


Well .. . you did ask ;)

It all sounds eminently sensible to me. I would add a couple of things (feel free to ignore them :)).

In the often crowded waters of the Solent, it is absolutely crucial that everyone attending is fully familiar with the ColRegs (http://www.sailtrain.co.uk/Irpcs/). You really don't want to turn the wrong way when faced with a freighter or a grumpy sail boat (there seemed to be a quite few of them around Cowes when I was in there :)).

It is also worth paying close attention to the tides and weather during the trip itself - in exposed water, things can turn nasty unbelievably quickly - sometimes in a matter of just a few minutes. As this is a circumnavigation, you are almost certain to find rough water at some point around the island as the flow rounds headlands (maximum tidal flow is around mid-day on these days).

I'm sure it will be a very enjoyable trip for all - unfortunately, I will be unable to attend :mad:

Bryan
18-Jan-10, 08:31 PM
Hi Kip the trip sounds great and all being well i would like to be their. My craft is having a new bottom and some more flotation added. Slow going at the moment!!!. To be warned i have made the crossing to the island on three different ocasions and it has been rough.... very rough. I,m sure you would agree the weather will have to be somthing special to make that trip but i,m always up for a challange. However i would hope all comers would take a look at the cruising information on this site. We are venturing further offshore now our craft are becoming more capable so we need to learn to be safe. Carry all the kit and clothing and how to use it!!. We should be pushing all currant and new members to get involved in the PQS scheme. There is a large effort to build relations between hovercraft and local athority. It only takes one misguided hovercraft user to spoil it for the rest.So lets get....involved !!

Ross Floyd
19-Jan-10, 03:38 PM
Is there any chance of a shorter event for those who don't want to do a circumnavigation ?

I'm sure a lot of people would love to come to the Museum and do a cruise, but perhaps going right round the Island is a bit much for some of the less seasoned operators. I've see the tide round the Needles and there may be some more timid hovernauts like me who would prefer something less ambitious!

I may be just over cautious but its an awful long way ! Perhaps a run to Ryde and Bembridge for the lilly livered?

Ross

Ken_A
19-Jan-10, 03:56 PM
Having lived on the IOW and knowing the different waters around the Island it would seem sensible to me for a first IOW crusie to constrain it to the north of the Island.
Across to Cowes then east past Osborne House, Fishborne, Ryde, Seaview and into St Helens would provide accessible beaches most of the way.
My five pen'orth for whats it's worth.

KipMac
19-Jan-10, 04:53 PM
Thanks to All for the input,
John,
I can't at the moment access Sailtrain as my computer shuts it down due to malicious virusy type problems. I will however keep trying.
There is no question that around The Needles will be the major challenge.
Fortunately it comes early on in the trip so if that is feasible the rest should be OK.
We may have to abort at that point, we will have to see on the day.
Ken,
I think that also covers your point.
Bryan,
Again the above should reassure you and Yes it can get very rough.
It has been done before.
By the way ,it's PLS not PQS. You should know that. Still after 40 the Grey cells do wander off a bit.
My Paul and Lindsay Gatward went around about 20 years ago in 2 Freedom 3's.
One with Rotax 503 and the other with a Reliant Robin engine.
They had a few minor mechanical problems but I like to think we have come on a long way since then.
Ross and any one else.

As it is a 4 day weekend there will be plenty of time to play at your own pace with no pressure.
I think it will be an ideal opportunity for us all to add to our knowledge and move forward with regard to PLS qualifications.

I would appreciate any volunteers who could perhaps give a talk, preferably on Friday with regard to Safety at Sea / Legislation, etc.
From the info already on the Forum I will at a later date publish a list of Musts and Desirables with regard to Equipment,Clothing, Communications,etc.

Regards to All, Kip

John Robertson
19-Jan-10, 05:29 PM
Kip,

There are also copies of the colregs (or to give them their proper title "International Regulations for Preventing Collisions at Sea" :)) HERE (http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/mwv/mwv_files/NR_Files/COMDTINST%20M16672.2D_NavRules%28Corrected%29.pdf) or HERE (http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/mwv/mwv_files/NR_Files/navrules.pdf) plus many other places.

Alternatively, the online PLS1 knowledge test (http://www.hovercraft.org.uk/index.php?pageid=plic#) and the Training Event Presentation (http://www.hovercraft.org.uk/showthread.php?t=21836) (also covers equipment, etc ) cover the basics with a hover-slant. Hint: always turn RIGHT and you won't go far wrong in most situations :D

KipMac
19-Jan-10, 05:48 PM
Cheers John, But 227 pages!!
I think I will keep trying Sailtrain

Kip

Bryan
19-Jan-10, 08:12 PM
Opps correct i should know better .....PLS is the way forward. Kip if you need any help on the day feel free to get me on board.

KipMac
20-Jan-10, 07:33 AM
Assuming your not still sulking from your Karting thrashing!!

What would we do without our little ray of sunshine?

Kip

KipMac
14-Mar-10, 05:46 PM
Only 18 days to go so I reckon it’s time to resurrect this post.

Have you all got your tickets to Ryde.

From the replies I have had we definitely have a goer.
Weather permitting we should have a great Easter break. Even if the weather is a bit anti withPortsmouth and Gosport next door and the regular hovercraft runs to the IOW there are plenty of options to keep ourselves amused.


I am looking for some help with equipment.

Can any one bring along a marquee/Gazebo.
A barbeque, mine is a bit tired.
A generator would help and finally would any one be prepared to give a short brief talk on general guidance of the Rules at Sea.

I am anticipating sufficient cover with safety boats however I would appreciate those that have volunteered their services coming back to me to confirm as they are a vital part of the weekend.

Finally for now .I recently visited the Museum and had to spend far too long looking for a much needed hacksaw.
These lads are all volunteers and spend an awful lot of their time restoring the craft.
They desperately need tools so if any one has a surplus I am sure they would be grateful for whatever you can dig out.
Please have clear out and even Imperial tools are useful bearing in mind the age of some of the craft.

Any questions please PM me.

Regards, Kip

Ian Brooks
14-Mar-10, 07:13 PM
Unfortunately I'm up to my neck in getting the craft ready for the Training Event so I can't come. I have the Training Presentation which would be the basis for the Safety Talk - if someone can be found to present it... would need to be someone who has attended a past Training Event.

Ian

KipMac
14-Mar-10, 07:42 PM
Shame you can't make it Ian.
Hope the training event goes OK
Any volunteer to take over the reins on this one? (Please.Please!!)

Ross Floyd
14-Mar-10, 09:39 PM
We can bring a gazebo.

Ross

Bryan
15-Mar-10, 06:47 PM
Hi Kip i,m also still fighting to complete the refit. The new floor is on and finished but still waiting on my fuel tank, lift engine exhusts and new skirt to arrive. I am doing my best but its been a long winter!!!!!.

KipMac
15-Mar-10, 08:13 PM
Oh Boy , Are you in trouble if you don't make it.
If f it's been a long winter then why ain't the b----y thing finished,

You can still come without yours as there is at least one craft going spare.

Cheers, Kip

redmonds
16-Mar-10, 08:20 PM
The Redmonds are definately coming with 2 craft

Bryan
16-Mar-10, 08:39 PM
Kip as usual your a gent....... now i,m out of excuses ....... sshould see you there!

KipMac
17-Mar-10, 07:04 AM
Kip as usual your a gent....... now i,m out of excuses ....... sshould see you there!

Not should!! I am looking for WILL

Cheers
Kip

Bryan
17-Mar-10, 08:46 PM
Charged the battery on the camper today. Just some rent in the window and a new tyre ready to go. ......................... coming craft or not...............see you there!

campbe5177
30-Mar-10, 06:09 PM
Anyone else looking at the weather? Better bring a kite :D

KipMac
31-Mar-10, 06:06 AM
In case of any doubt ref the weather, the weekend is going ahead. I believe that although the original round the island trip is not looking promising there will be a few windows of opportunity to play, and apart from that the social side is always worth the effort.

See you soon,

Kip

gavinparson
31-Mar-10, 08:14 PM
I remember a cruise we had on the Medway years ago on 1st April turned out to be really sporty. In fact it was a miracle that we managed to get back from the other side of the river, the waves were so big.

The write up in the mag was titled "April Fools".

Brian G. Reynolds
1-Apr-10, 07:33 AM
Good luck to you all on this! Maybe I can attend next year, after I meet that millionairess!!!!

I look forward to reading about it!

Keep safe,

B.

Ross Floyd
6-Apr-10, 09:00 PM
How did it go guys?

I spent the weekend looking at the local WX and sulking :-(

Ross