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m22rrk
11-Apr-10, 05:14 PM
Hi all , im new to this forum , my names mark im from county durham and ive just bought my first hovercraft .
ive never had a intrest in hovercrafts or boats anything like that . ive always raced prokarts ,race quads, rage off road buggies ect , currently have trials bike .
anyway the opertunity came up to buy two of these Hovercrafts that were used for promosional advertising by "HOLSTEN PILS" outside yarm talltrees nightclub .
they have stood in storage for over 3 or 4 years and are both in exellent condition .
when i went to collect them the owner decided only to sell me one of them so i picked the best one , with only 20 hours on the tachometer.
it is in beatifull condition with a kohler v twin engine i put a new battery on it and it started first click of the key , sounds and runs very nice , all the lights work aswell ,
Now the only problem is ! all the segmented skirts were took off before storage and some have rotted away some have been lost also all the clips to fix them around top lip are missing ???
i have around 20 of the original skirts with it , but i need to get this thing all fixed up so i can have a play on it , .
what do i do ?? and the cheapest way of doing this ?? as i will be selling this for the summer once its all tip top .
do i find the skirt fabric and copy the originals and have a machinest fabricate them for me or do i buy them from somewere ??? i havent a clue were to look and what to look for .
What make and model is it ??
Ilook at pics of crafts and thought it was a flying fish but i was wrong lol ,
ive been told on you tube that its a osprey hovercraft ,
its all air brushed in holsten pills logo & even has a matching full face helmet in same colours .
ive added a couple of photos off my phone so not excellent quality but should do the job .
any advice or help would be deeply appreciated thanks mark

kevthehover
11-Apr-10, 06:21 PM
Mark,

Yes its an Osprey one sent you a private message i have all that you want.
See the video:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLOhPnlt7S0

Kevthehover

curtis5420
11-Apr-10, 08:02 PM
its without doubt an opsrey. kev is your man.

pretty nasty repair on the rear 1/4 tho.

cheapest way, to make a set of skirts, is to make them yourself. a roll of skirt material, can be got for 200quid ish. or get kev to supply them.

m22rrk
11-Apr-10, 09:56 PM
its without doubt an opsrey. kev is your man.

pretty nasty repair on the rear 1/4 tho.

cheapest way, to make a set of skirts, is to make them yourself. a roll of skirt material, can be got for 200quid ish. or get kev to supply them.

thanks jon , yer i seen it had some fiberglass on back quarter , i would of done a tidyer job than wots been done . ,

it looks like the skirts are goin to cost me more than what the whole hovercraft cost me . ,
wots a fair price for one of these ? thanks mark

m22rrk
11-Apr-10, 09:59 PM
Mark,

Yes its an Osprey one sent you a private message i have all that you want.
See the video:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLOhPnlt7S0

Kevthehover
cheers kev nice video looks just like my craft ! il give you a call early this week . its nice to feel like im getting somewere now ! ive had this 3 months now and was about to just give up . thanks alot mark

m22rrk
12-Apr-10, 04:13 PM
hey thanks guys for your information ,
i must try to buy the other matching craft now to see whats the best way to go about buying or making the skirt .
Heres some pics i took today for KEV the hover . hope you like .
thanks mark
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=TURBOMAGIKZ


http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w158/m22rrk/hov015.jpg

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w158/m22rrk/hov002-1.jpg

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w158/m22rrk/hov003.jpg

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w158/m22rrk/hov004.jpg

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w158/m22rrk/hov005.jpg

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w158/m22rrk/hov007.jpg

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w158/m22rrk/hov009.jpg

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w158/m22rrk/hov010.jpg

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w158/m22rrk/hov012.jpg

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w158/m22rrk/hov013.jpg

Philip
12-Apr-10, 04:47 PM
Wow that craft looks to be in excellent condition, a set of skirts and away you go!! Good collection of Mosa welders in the backround :):) Philip

hyde4683/01
12-Apr-10, 05:43 PM
Change the fan as the truflow one in it is nowhere near as good as a multiwing ans they will break at the roots as quite old and been in the sun.

Winter
18-Apr-10, 01:23 PM
Wow.. wish I had a find like that!

msimmo
23-Apr-10, 06:48 PM
hi mark it mick here i am the owner off the other one have u had any luck finding new skirts for your yet mate if u can find out give me a ring mate as i want to put mine back together as well i have all the track as well 07985475427 i worked them down at yarm they are mint fun mate give me a ring if u get anything sorted thanks mick

gavinparson
24-Apr-10, 05:28 AM
My skirt design for the Osprey One and its derivatives (Firefly/ Flying Fish etc) is far superior to the original. It transformed the craft I took on the Rhone Raid last year and makes getting over hump much easier as it has greater resistance to water scooping.

Let me know if you are interested in a new complete skirt.

Cheers
Gavin

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curtis5420
24-Apr-10, 12:21 PM
hi gavin

what have to done to improve it then? give us some pointers??

gavinparson
24-Apr-10, 01:08 PM
That would be telling! I just got some good tips from Mr White, went back to the drawing board and redesigned the rear and corner segments.

This picture is the best shot taken of my redesigned skirt before I made changes to the rear segments (hence the original engine), but that detail is not visible from the outside anyway.

If my teenage sons can get this craft over hump after sitting in a lock on the Rhone than anyone can.

KipMac
24-Apr-10, 04:55 PM
"Telling" Gavin is what the club is all about.
I have had enough of my ideas nicked.
It would be nice to get the benefit of some one elses for a change

It is after all a cruising craft and not a competitive racer were secrets are accepted.

To me the whole skirt looks as it was 20 yrs ago.

What has been changed, sorry, been improved?

(Can't find a tongue in cheek icon)

Regards, Kip

firth5731
24-Apr-10, 06:47 PM
i was talking to kev last year.His first skirt on the osprey was 8oz coated nylon he replaced it with hypalon and it transformed the craft.
i have sent people a skirt to copy at cost to me but what goes around come around and i will offer any help i can to anyone and i am fairly new to this.

curtis5420
24-Apr-10, 07:33 PM
i have sent people a skirt to copy at cost to me but what goes around come around and i will offer any help i can to anyone and i am fairly new to this.

and your a top bloke for doing it!

need any help with the water cooled, briggs let me know, just got some very good advice, from keith smallwood, regards the setup.

gavinparson
24-Apr-10, 10:36 PM
It is after all a cruising craft and not a competitive racer were secrets are accepted.

To me the whole skirt looks as it was 20 yrs ago.

What has been changed, sorry, been improved?

(Can't find a tongue in cheek icon)

Regards, Kip

1. Who said it was a secret? I offered to supply a skirt :confused:
2. It does look different to the ugly, pointy skirts fitted to many derivatives of your craft.
3. As I said, the changes are mainly internal on the sewing lines and attachment points.

firth5731
25-Apr-10, 07:44 AM
i remember jon stebbiins had a better skirt design

curtis5420
25-Apr-10, 08:16 AM
1. Who said it was a secret? I offered to supply a skirt :confused:
2. It does look different to the ugly, pointy skirts fitted to many derivatives of your craft.
3. As I said, the changes are mainly internal on the sewing lines and attachment points.

can i get a paper copy of your template then :) ??

KipMac
25-Apr-10, 08:34 AM
The best skirt EVER for a small craft was an" ugly pointy thing" designed by one of the best designers, namely Roy Henvest.

It had fantastic stability and was extremely efficient.

By the way I did not say it was a secret, I just pointed out that you did not want to tell any one.

I know I could show you a 20 year old photo where you could not tell the difference in the skirt design

.Please try not to take other comments so personal

Kip.

kevthehover
25-Apr-10, 09:02 AM
Hi,

As you can see with the the original design and skirt this craft still remains a well proven craft and after twenty years still avialable and selling well!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLOhPnlt7S0

Kind regards

Kevthehover

m22rrk
25-Apr-10, 04:45 PM
"OMG" :lol: now im Totally confused now ! :confused: :confused: ... ...

Here's me thinkin it was a pain goin shopin for a skirt with the missus ! lol ...

I now feel like im back were i started !
Wot skirts do i go for (remember i aint goin to spend silly money ) 400 max will do me .
I just want to get this craft up and running . :P~:-P~:razz:
all i want is to have this up running and looking like a dream .it already looks a dream now ... then il have a bit play in the water have a bit sensible fun .

Then just as the summer is nearly on top of us all .
im putting this craft up for sale ! .
somebody some were will apreciate this craft a lot better than me .

its just im far to much into sports with wheels lol ....But there again i could just keep it for occasional play .
thanks mark

gavinparson
26-Apr-10, 06:21 AM
can i get a paper copy of your template then :) ??

Of course you can! Have you got an Osprey/ Flying Fish now then?

Kip, I went back to the drawing board with the skirt and although obviously the skirt geometry is always going to fit the basic geometry rules, small changes can make a lot of difference.
There's no denying that there's a lot of skirts fitted to this type of craft that are pretty ugly, too high, wrong angles and despite claims, aren't as efficient on water as they should be. Believe me, I've driven a lot of them.

As I said, with some input from Bryan I made some changes that made an immense improvement.Francis has just commented to me how well this skirt design works.
It does involve changing contact points so won't just fit onto an Osprey One as is.

Mark, If you want a skirt made or just a set of templates, let me know.

Gavin

KipMac
26-Apr-10, 06:35 PM
Thanks for that Gavin.
I look forward to having a chat about it next time we meet up.

Kip

m22rrk
27-Apr-10, 08:25 PM
ok . ive now had a few offers to sell me a complete package of skirts for this craft .
also ive had good advice on how to make my own ! ............
the thing is ive been in buisness dealing in plant and machinery for over 25 years and basically know everything i need to know about Industrial enines and marine engines .

as ive only the one craft i would rather buy the skirts with the clips or wotever they have to hold them in place on the top .....
i dont need the cable ties for bottom .
i dare say i could strip this full craft and rebuild it in a day with my eyes closed ....:rolleyes:


BUT I cannot dot NEEDLE WORK lol.:blush:
so is there any chance of getting a idea on the prices before i pull out my cash .
thanks mark .

kach22i
18-May-10, 09:58 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLOhPnlt7S0

It leans well.

Purple, so pretty.

kach22i
18-May-10, 10:00 PM
My skirt design for the Osprey One and its derivatives (Firefly/ Flying Fish etc) is far superior to the original. It transformed the craft I took on the Rhone Raid last year and makes getting over hump much easier as it has greater resistance to water scooping.

Let me know if you are interested in a new complete skirt.

Cheers
Gavin

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The skirt curves do look like the air would flow more naturally.

m22rrk
23-May-10, 10:06 PM
up for sale ..... ebay

curtis5420
23-May-10, 10:18 PM
i'll give you 20quid for the rudders.

The Dragon
25-May-10, 12:31 PM
im fed up now ! anybody give me a good sensible price for this craft "WITHOUT SKIRTS " .
i aint the time to mess about . ive now got another quad so this will go ! if stupid offers come in then il just take engine off it and chuck the rest on my scrap fire . fibreglass burns ok in the dark . lol . ? thank you all for your help . mark

Now I'm confused!! :confused:

Are you wanting to sell the craft? Are you after buying a skirt for it??

One minute you're after skirts and now you're exasperated cos no-one is making you an offer on the craft!!:confused:

You could always stick an ad in the classifieds cos its unlikely to get the attention it needs stuck 4 pages down in a thread about 'my first hovercraft'!!

Jon Pert
25-May-10, 01:14 PM
You could always stick an ad in the classifieds cos its unlikely to get the attention it needs stuck 4 pages down in a thread about 'my first hovercraft'!!

No he can't, he's not a club member. :)

Jon Pert
25-May-10, 01:17 PM
it looks like the skirts are goin to cost me more than what the whole hovercraft cost me . ,
wots a fair price for one of these ? thanks mark

If that's the case then I'll give you 300 for the craft. I'll get the skirts made myself for less than that.

Deal?

curtis5420
25-May-10, 05:11 PM
he paid 400quid for it, which is about right with no skirt, old engine and truflow fans. oh and the massive dent in the back end, which needs to be fixed proper.

i must admit i'm a little confused by this bloke, straight away he says he wants to fix it up quick to sell it, does he think we are daft, i'm not gona help him do that.

secondly he states he knows everything about everything, so pretty much b*gger him he can get on with it himself.

I'm sure if the gentelman had a different attitude he would get much more help and advice.

still would take the rudders off him for 20quid tho :)

Winter
25-May-10, 05:21 PM
I offered to buy it with no skirt as I'm still looking to get started in hovercrafting but was knocked back.

Offer still stands though :)

m22rrk
25-May-10, 06:43 PM
I didnt really want to sell infact i dont need to sell it . i thought it would be straight forward gettin the skirt for this craft ? then some yous lot all start to argue ?? in my thread about whos skirts are the best and this and that ! as if its top seceret stuff ..now that would confuse any newcomer to this and turn them off hovercrafts .
and as for attitudes i love the comment " ohh im not helpin the lad out because hes going to sell it and make a profit ? " what utter crap .
if it was any other sport cars / bikes / boats ect doesnt everybody do this ??? im yet to meet the person who will sell you a item at a loss .

ive had some very helpful people on here and you know who you are .

il stick with these fellas know know this craft best at least il get somewere.

atters
26-May-10, 08:16 AM
I am selling my bike Just to brake even, so I guess I come the closest to what you are on about.

I am coming over in August and will need a start up craft early in next year, keep it, fix it up till original and I will take it off your hands for the 400 you paid for it, you know these thing loose value very fast and by the time I need to buy one, yours will be all good to go and I can get it from you for a bargain.

Good?

m22rrk
30-Jul-10, 02:02 PM
Forsale
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Osprey-1-Hovercraft-25-hrs-kohler-v-twin-AIRBRUSH-paint-/330455586709?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item4cf0b01795

" Was never found in a scrap yard" as ive just read somebody saying on a different thread ?
i found it in storage with its identical twin ! and it has stood inside a container for 4 months at my workplace from the day i purchased it ! only brought it out to get decent photos . then put it back inside . thank you mark

m22rrk
1-Aug-10, 07:05 PM
Sold !