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    Hey up,

    Can anybody provide me with information on rudder control cables.

    I was thinking of Morse/Teleflex from a rib/small boat but the local chandler tells me that they are only available with worm drive connections at the control end. So they are only suitable for a wheel and for that I need a hub.
    This is 1: Far too expensive (idiot boat people prices, its like standing in the shower tearing up 5 notes).
    2: Far to heavy.
    That last statement caused quite a lot of confusion in sales assistant.
    "They really don't weigh that much."

    Cheers all.

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    Hello Aaron,

    The handlebars are linked to the Morse Teleflex cable and are fabricated by you!
    This picture on the link below shows a handle bar arrangement where the mechanism is where you can see it.
    http://www.adventuresport.co.uk/uplo...-handlebar.jpg

    The other end is then attached to a pair of rudders with a link to each other and the Morse cable.

    Hope that is useful best regards Derek

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    Hey up,

    Thats exactly what I had in mind before yesterday.
    But when I rocked-up at the chandler's he started going on about worm drive connections and wheel hubs.
    Wanting to know what its for and why I can and can't do certain things.
    Almost as though he was trying to talk himself out of business.
    Fool.
    A little knowledge is a dangerous thing indeed.

    Today I went up to the Marine Superstore, Port Solent.
    There I spoke to somebody even less knowledgeable but who was more than happy to show me a cable and research the lengths they are available in.
    20 and it'll be here either Tuesday or Wednesday, even offered to call me when its in.
    No bother say I, I'll be up here Friday afternoon for it.

    Anybody in Portsmouth is advised to steer well clear of Ron Hale Marine on Highland road, typical know noting boat bashing idiots.



    Whilst I'm on, I've another question;
    When it comes to setting the rudders, is it best to have them absolutely parallel or with a slight amount of bias in/outwards?
    Looking top-down these are the options:
    1. | |
    2. / \
    3. \ /

    Cheers all.

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    Hi Aaron

    You want your rudders straight so when you are going in a straight line there is no resistance to disturb the airflow. If they tow in or outwards you are in effect blocking thrust.

    Hope this helps

    Kev

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba Kev View Post
    Hi Aaron

    You want your rudders straight so when you are going in a straight line there is no resistance to disturb the airflow. If they tow in or outwards you are in effect blocking thrust.

    Hope this helps

    Kev

    Good point well made.

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    Teleflex 33c cables is the way to go. On either end use the quick release ball & socket doofers. Here is a link to K&M products website showing what I mean.


    http://www.kmproducts.co.uk/images/balljoint.jpg


    On steering stem you either weld or bolt a lever arm and the rudder end also has a similar lever arm. I'll have a look and see if I can find any pictures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan Wilkins View Post
    Teleflex 33c cables is the way to go. On either end use the quick release ball & socket doofers. Here is a link to K&M products website showing what I mean.


    http://www.kmproducts.co.uk/images/balljoint.jpg


    On steering stem you either weld or bolt a lever arm and the rudder end also has a similar lever arm. I'll have a look and see if I can find any pictures.
    Hey up,

    33C cable is just what I have, ta.
    Rung up another idiot chandler yesterday (perhaps I won't learn) asking about those fittings, in the hope I could just go and get them. Mentioned Morse/telefax 33C cable, so far so good, then said what I wanted but they had to be the 10X32UNF thread at the end ( as thats what I have) not the M6. (which is the alternative.) Caused no end of flapping and confusion, took my details and said they would get back to me.
    Needles to say that they haven't.
    Looks like I'll be ringing K+M on Friday afternoon then.

    Cheers Al.

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    Give Keith a ring at vortex services. He's got them in stock

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